On Mon, 18 Dec 2006 01:18:17 GMT VWWall wrote: | snipped-for-privacy@ipal.net wrote: |> In another thread the topic shifted to DC input power to a computer. And |> this is not a new topic, either. I thought I'd just launch this directly |> as a new thread to see what others think about this. |> |> Here is the original paper from Google: |>
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| | The intent of the study was to improve the power utilization in the | server room. A good part of power usage is for air conditioning. It's | not only power supply efficiency that must be considered, but the ease | and cost of removing heat from where it's generated. | | The standard PC supply's switching supply works at ~340 volts, (240 x | 1.414213562...), because that is what you get rectifying 240V or | doubling from 120V. | | If one were to produce the DC at a common point, and route it to all the | individual servers, there is no reason why that voltage should be | sacrosanct. A higher voltage would be slightly more efficient, and it | could be regulated at the common origin. | | On the other hand, standard PC supplies could be modified fairly easily | to accept 340V DC input from a common source.
Is that the voltage you would suggest be going into the mainboards on-board at-the-load regulators? Seems rather high for that role, especially for machines with exteranl power supplies (e.g. wall warts for single PCs, and a common power supply feeding a whole rack cabinet full of rows of blades).
The idea I have in mind is one single standardized voltage for all parts inside a computer case, especially the mainboard. Some machines would have a PSU to convert the mains AC voltage to this standard DC voltage. Other machines would have a direct DC connection for integrating into an array of machines served by a common PSU. Both could have the same mainboard.
| It now becomes an economic study which must include installation ROI, | compliance with existing electrical codes, as well as overall | power/cooling trade offs.
Building power would stay the same (large data centers might be doing this with a higher AC voltage like maybe 480Y/277 in the USA). The direct-to-board DC power would usuaully span no more than a rack cabinet or three; not a ceoncern of building electrical codes (though OSHA may matter for safety reasons if this is a high voltage or has large fault currents).
If 48VDC turns out to be a practical voltage for direct-to-mainboard, which could be made relatively safe in small home use (think wall wart cable), it would certainly be a boon to telco, and the subset of IT that is already using telco style power. It would not be a hard shift for the industry to do. The big question is: is this the right voltage to make mainboards work with directly? I think that choice needs to be made with concern for various things like cost and efficiency. I could personally deal with anything from 12VDC to 48VDC. But something other than 48VDC would add cost to the telco aspects. And something other than 12VDC with a wide range would add costs to the consumer market. If there is to be just one DC voltage, where the other has to convert, which should it be? How costly is a 12VDC to 48VDC converter at 100,
200, or 300 watts? Or what about the reverse (48VDC to 12VDC)?
| It is getting to be a big enough consideration for people like Google, | that some solution will be forthcoming.
With 450,000 machines as of some time ago, they have a huge interest, and hopefully a huge influence. They can get such boards now, but they have to depend on their own buying power to get a decent price. But if the whole industry moved in that direction, they would benefit even more because all the basic components to do this would become more massively produced, better integrated, and have an even lower price ... the difference between a 1,000,000 unit order Google could potentially place, and a 1,000,000,000+ unit market looking forward.