Equipment Ground / Neutral bonding w/derived ground system

I'm installing a multi building system ( large shop / home ) The primary feed is going to the shop 600 amp @ 480 4 wire. I plan to run a sub feed to the house with 175 amp 480 3 wire ( 4-0 AL @ 300') to a 150 Amp breaker / disconnect box. Then to a 112.5 kva 3 phase transformer ( 480 delta to

208/120 Y) At the house I'm going to run a ufer ground and also the required 2, 8' ground rods. I assume that I will need to bond the derived grounded connector from the transformer to the equipment safety ground in the 208 V panel?? or should it be in the service disconnect ( normal place to bond, but seems like a strange place, as there is no neutral in that box )

Thanks

William.......

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William
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If this is just a wild eyed hypothetical then you got me.

If you are tackling a 480 delta by 208/120 volt wye transformer installation without the help of a well trained and experienced electrician you are "sailing into danger".

There is no requirement for using ground rods in the US NEC. The code only regulates how they are installed when they are used. The decision whether or not to use them is a design issue. What is required is that you must construct a "Grounding Electrode System" from all the electrodes that are available. The reason that driven rods are so often installed as grounding electrodes is that they are easily installed after the opportunity to install a Ufer or ground ring has been missed because the builder did not involve an electrician sufficiently early in the construction process. Once you have a Concrete Encased Electrode (Ufer) you do not need to use ground rods.

You appear to be confusing the required "building disconnecting means" with the "service disconnecting means" of the derived system. The building disconnecting means provides the means to disconnect the ungrounded conductors of the feeder that will supply the home from their source of supply as required by 250.32. The service disconnecting means of the derived service that will supply the home's lighting and appliance panel board will be the main breaker of that panel.

The Grounding Electrode Conductor (GEC) should be terminated at the Xo of the transformer. From that same multibarreled lug you will run separate EGC and Grounded Conductor (neutral) to separate buss bars in the lighting and appliance panel board for the dwelling. The code allows you to make the connection of the GEC to the Grounded Conductor at either the transformer or the service disconnecting means of the derived system but best practice is to connect at the Xo of the transformer.

You also should run an Equipment Grounding Conductor with the conductors of the feeder that will supply the home and use it to bond the building disconnecting means enclosure back to the main bonding jumper of the shop service. That will provide a low impedance fault current path back to the Xo of the utility service transformer. That EGC will continue on the the frame of the transformer in the home.

-- Tom H

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Tom Horne

You might want to check about running 480 to a residence with your local inspector. I am probably wrong, but for some reason my feeble brain says that it is a no-no...I am not even sure that you can have a 3 phase service to a single family dwelling, regardless of voltage.

You may have to put the transformer in your shop and feed the lower voltage to your home.

Do you have to meter your home separately so that you don't run into tax problems with the IRS?

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Gerald Newton

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