The use of inductive loads in domestic premise is a big subject. what
can we use to reduce power factor at home, and what are the benefits.

The benefits are saving energy, but are not nearly as significant as some would have you believe. Take for example a 1/2 hp motor running 12 hours a day with a power factor of 0.4 (pretty darn low, even for single phase equipment). That motor draws about 7.8 amps at 120V. Let us

If we could correct the power factor at the motor terminals to 1.0, then the motor would only draw about 3.1 amps, and the power dissipated in the supply wiring would be 2.5 watts when the motor is running.

So the savings of ~13.2 watts in power, over 12 hours a day for 365 days a year would be ~58 kwh. Even in an expensive market of $0.30 /kwh, that's just $17.40 a year.

Can we correct the power factor to 1.0 with a device that costs under $17.40?

If the motor initially has a pf of 0.6, and we can correct it to 0.95, (somewhat more realistic goal) then the savings would be only about $5.53 per year.

Some folks mistakenly believe that by correcting the power factor, and reducing the motor running current from say 7.8 amps to 3.2 amps, that they will cut the operating costs by this simple ratio (3.2/7.8 => 41% less electricity???). Scam artists hope you don't know the real savings and use this kind of calculation so 'justify' buying their product.

But that is not the case. Electric meters not only measure the current, but also the power factor and measure only the

Notice also, that the savings is in the wiring inside your home. So 'whole house power factor correction' does even less for you. If the power factor is corrected at the service panel instead of at the motor terminals, then the wiring inside your home is still carrying the same current, and dissipating the same heat. The reduced current in the relatively short, low-resistance conductors from the service panel back to the electric meter is the only savings in this situation.

There are situations when the utility charges an industrial customer extra fees for poor power factor loads. In those cases it is worthwhile for the customer to correct their power factor on the premises. But those types of situations are not all that common, and I've never heard of a residential customer being charged for poor power factor conditions.

For folks living 'off-grid', a poor power factor can cause trouble with loading of static inverters or small generators they may be using. In these cases, power factor correction may help avoid buying a larger unit and so can be of benefit.

And finally, if you look at the number of inductive loads in a typical household (number of electric motors is a good estimate) and how often they run, you start to realize that this isn't really that much of an issue.

Note I said 'inductive loads', I'm not considering the poor power factor caused by electronic power supplies. That requires a different form of power factor correction.

daestrom

One of the best explanations of the true "savings" of power factor correction that I have seen on Usenet. Good job.

I deal with calls from clients being promised the sun, moon, and stars with some new-fangled power factor correction technology (usually simple caps in a different looking can with some lights).

Charles Perry P.E.

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EXCELLENT response.

If the original poster would provide the name of the utility, I will BET that the utility meter rate is not measuring PF on residences. Since they do not measure it. No worries mate.

I knew of someone that spent a plethora of time and effort installing cap banks on motor loads at his house trying to reduce his electric bill. 3 a/c compressors in 4 years tells ya something. And 2 washing machines in the sa me time frame.

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Great post! Ed

Great post! Ed

Around here the Utility tells me that residential PFs are normally 0.95 and up. Do you have a link to a source that describes this as a big subject? I'm curious to see that opinion. And, I assume you mean 'What can we use to

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This is true. But then it depends on how one defines 'power factor'. If the harmonic currents drawn by nonlinear loads are considered, then the power factor calculated may be lower.

I think that this might be a bigger issue than residential inductive loads. Furthermore, the steps one would take to improve power factors differ depending on whether they are inductive and linear or nonlinear.

This is true. But then it depends on how one defines 'power factor'. If the harmonic currents drawn by nonlinear loads are considered, then the power factor calculated may be lower.

I think that this might be a bigger issue than residential inductive loads. Furthermore, the steps one would take to improve power factors differ depending on whether they are inductive and linear or nonlinear.

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On Sun, 29 Jan 2006 21:40:21 -0800, Paul Hovnanian P.E. wrote:

The only meaningful definition of power-factor is watts/(VARS+watts). That is, the usefull power vs. volts*amps.

Sure. ...and quite obviously. However homeowners (at least in the US) pay for watts. PF isn't important. Were I running an aluminum smelter, things would be way different. I rather doubt that even the nonlinear loads in a typical residence do much the PF of the system either. Could be though, the worry-wart Europeons seem to think PF correction on PC power supplies is a big deal.

The only meaningful definition of power-factor is watts/(VARS+watts). That is, the usefull power vs. volts*amps.

Sure. ...and quite obviously. However homeowners (at least in the US) pay for watts. PF isn't important. Were I running an aluminum smelter, things would be way different. I rather doubt that even the nonlinear loads in a typical residence do much the PF of the system either. Could be though, the worry-wart Europeons seem to think PF correction on PC power supplies is a big deal.

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On Tue, 31 Jan 2006 05:59:35 +0000, Don Kelly wrote:

Sure, so anyone selling "watt-savers", or the like, to residential customers is a crook! ...which is the point here.

Sure, so anyone selling "watt-savers", or the like, to residential customers is a crook! ...which is the point here.

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That depends on what you plan on doing with the power factor data. If you applying capacitors, you want displacement power factor since capacitors cannot correct for distortion power factor.

Kind of like saying the only thing you care about paint is the color. Well, let someone paint your car with latex and you will be annoyed. You have to know the application before you know what data you need.

Charles Perry P.E.

If by "distortion power factor" you mean something to do with current spikes or such, it seems to me that capacitors CAN "help."

No. Distortion power factor is that portion of power factor directly related to harmonic current. Caps do not help harmonics, as I am sure you know. They can lead to resonance problems causing high harmonic voltages. They can also, in some cases, push transformers into interesting saturation conditions that can lead to high harmonic currents.

Charles Perry P.E.

Charles Perry wrote:

Can someone recommend a decent primer that explains these different kinds of power factor you are yakking about? I've always thought it was just one kind of thing.

--Dale

Can someone recommend a decent primer that explains these different kinds of power factor you are yakking about? I've always thought it was just one kind of thing.

--Dale

On Wed, 01 Feb 2006 03:36:15 +0000, Dale Farmer wrote:

I can't recommend a text, though there was an article here in the last day or so that had a pretty good explanation of the result of a crappy PF on a residential load.

Basically the PF is the (multiplicitave) difference between the real power over the total of the real plus "imaginary" power. In***all*** cases we
can calculate the real power by measuring the instantaneous power (volts
times amps) and averaging over at least a cycle. If we can only measure
current and voltage independantly, we can calculate VA but need more
information before we can calculate the real power. The relationship
between voltage and current is needed. If both are sinusoids the PF is the
cosine of the phase difference. If not, as is the case with harmonics
(e.g. switching power supplies and fluroscent lamps) the phase difference
isn't meaningful but the average of the instantaneous V*A still works.

I can't recommend a text, though there was an article here in the last day or so that had a pretty good explanation of the result of a crappy PF on a residential load.

Basically the PF is the (multiplicitave) difference between the real power over the total of the real plus "imaginary" power. In

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Resistive load, e.g. incandescent light bulb: - Fundamental current is close to in-phase with fundamental voltage, pf(Displacement) ~= 1 - Very little distortion, pf(Distortion) ~= 1 - Overall power factor pf ~= 1

Inductive load, e.g. motor: - Fundamental current is significantly out of phase with fundamental voltage, pf(Displacement) ~= 0.8 - Very little distortion, pf(Distortion) ~= 1 - Overall power factor pf ~= 0.8

Certain harmonic loads, e.g. 3-phase UPS input (w/ no input filters): - Fundamental current is fairly close to in-phase with fundamental voltage, pf(Displacement) ~= 0.95 - Significant distortion, pf(Distortion) ~= 0.7 - Overall power factor pf ~= 0.66

So, say you measure Vrms to the UPS and find it to be 600V, and you measure Irms and find it to be 40A, the apparent power is S`0

For decent primers, Wiki doesn't look great, but maybe OK if you read it over lightly.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Power_factor

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Distortion_power_factor

Or try a search along these lines

http://www.google.ca/search?hl=en&q=power+factor+displacement+distortion

Later,

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It is not that complicated. Use the calculus of variations. Assume some fixed value of power transfer to a load and a sinusoidal applied voltage. it It is easy to show that the least conductive loss will occur if the load current is also sinusoidal and in phase with the voltage. No power transfer to the load results as a consequence of harmonic currents. Harmonic currents, however, will add to the I^2*R losses. Whether you want to lump effects of reactive currents and harmonic currents together to form some grand concept of power factor is a matter of choice rather of any deep significance.

Bill

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It is not that complicated. Use the calculus of variations. Assume some fixed value of power transfer to a load and a sinusoidal applied voltage. it It is easy to show that the least conductive loss will occur if the load current is also sinusoidal and in phase with the voltage. No power transfer to the load results as a consequence of harmonic currents. Harmonic currents, however, will add to the I^2*R losses. Whether you want to lump effects of reactive currents and harmonic currents together to form some grand concept of power factor is a matter of choice rather of any deep significance.

Bill

-- Ferme le Bush

Power factor is

In a lot of applications, the voltage is a nice simple sine wave with constant frequency and voltage (such as 60 hz, 120V at your wall outlet). The type of load connected to this sort of voltage source will determine the current flow.

One kind of poor power factor can result from using a linear load that has a lot of reactance (either inductive, or capacitive). The current is also a nice sine waveform, but it doesn't peak at the same instant as the voltage. With inductive loads for example, the current peaks later in time than the voltage on each cycle. If you multiply the current times the voltage at many points throughout the sine wave, some of those products will be positive (both voltage and current happen to be positive at that moment, or both voltage and current happen to be negative at that moment). But some points throughout the sine wave, the product will be negative (either voltage or current happen to be negative while the other is positive). So the product (the instantaneous power flow) is sometimes positive, sometimes negative. The net power flow is the average value of all these separate 'instants'. Since some are negative, the average is lower than it would have been if the current was reaching its peak at the same instant as voltage. So the net power (watts) is lower than what just volts*amperes would suggest.

The other kind of poor power factor is a result of non-linear loads. Consider a full-wave rectifier feeding a capacitor and resistor in parallel. When the voltage waveform is less than the charge on the capacitor, the diodes in the rectifier are reverse biased and no current flows from the AC line. When the voltage rises above the capacitor charge, the diode is forward biased and a large current flows from the AC line to charge the capacitor and dissipate power in the resistor. Then as the line voltage drops again at the 'tail end' of the sine wave, the diode is reverse biased again and the current stops. So the current is

Phase-shift power factor problems can be corrected by applying a reactance of the opposite type to that of the load. For an inductive load, installing a capacitor across the supply terminals can create a parallel L-C tank circuit and the capacitor supplies the imaginary current to feed the inductance while the line supplies just the real current to supply the load. But if the amount of inductance varies (as it does with a motor having a varying load), then ideally you would have varying capacitors. Variable caps that automatically adjust are pretty hard to find, so one usually settles for a fixed cap with a value that is a compromise.

Harmonic distortion power factor is harder to deal with. A harmonic trap that will prevent the high harmonic content current from propagating back to the supply is needed to remove the harmonic component. Simple capacitors across the line won't do it.

daestrom

Check the application notes on the Fluke web site. They have some info for their power quality analyzers that discusses this. Sorry I don't have a direct link off hand.

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