Re: Sources of Renewable Energy

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>Wowee! Out of fossil fuels in 50 years! I've heard figures stretching clear

> >out to 300 years. It all depends on the political orientation of the > >writer.

You said it. And the orientation of this writer is liberal bleeding heart tree-hugging moron. You see these "green people" everywhere these days spewing their nonsense. They think they are "caring" and so much "smarter" than you and I because they are so "green".

Only trouble is they haven't a scientific or engineering clue. Allow me to get out the cluefish and give them a smack. Solar, wind, hydro (except for the dams we mostly already have) and all the other day dreams can't possibly compete with fossil fuels. You'd have to cover the whole state of Texas with solar cells to get just enough energy to equal that coming out of ONE gas station! Anybody here ever actually TRY to use solar cells? Sure great for some roadside sign or the marker lights on your driveway, but run your refrigerator or washer? It'd be cheaper to HIRE a laundry to do your clothes. (and of course, they'd be burning fossil fuels!)

Here's the problem with these lefty bleeding hearts. QUANTITY is a concept WAY over their heads! They are all "idea men" but can't make anything practical work. The bottom line is that all these "green" ideas are total bullshit pie-in-the-sky crapola. NONE of it can work. The ANSWER to this problem of fossil fuels (and make no mistake it IS a real problem) simply hasn't been found yet. Until it is, all this bleeding heart propaganda is simply so much chaff in the wind.

In the meantime, we DO need to think about a few things which are NOT windmills, water wheels, and solar cells!

  1. First would be conservation of petroleum. Crude Oil is an AMAZING resource. It's a great raw material for all kinds of nifty plastics and chemicals especially fertilizers needed for food production to keep an over-populated planet alive!!! Doing STUPID things like burning it to heat your house or drive a giant SUV around that you really don't need is only going to make plastic cost like metal one day soon. Height of human stupidity would be an example like burning oil wells in Kuwait for spite. Apparently Saddam and his boys didn't consider themselves part of the human race.
  2. There is lots of coal and lots of natural gas. So it make sense to find ways (some are already known) to use these fossil fuels for heat instead of valuable raw materials like oil. This kind of research and stop-gap measures push doomsday off for at least a few hundred years in which time HOPEFULLY a REAL solution to the problem of energy can be found.
  3. Bio-fuels (except for using waste grease etc.) are TOTAL clap-trap! Alcohol from corn takes MORE OIL to make that if you simply burned the oil in the first place. Talk about not having a clue. PLUS you get the wondrous side effect of driving food prices through the roof! Thank you tree-huggers!
  4. Hey there are already some things that make sense. Curlycue light bulbs cut my electric bill in half. Yes, there is a mercury disposal problem but things like that can be solved. How to get enough power out of windmills can't.
  5. This WHOLE ignorant mentality that has been promoted since say the
1950's of a "disposable" world has GOT to be reversed! The waste of short-supply raw materials is not helped at ALL by a mentality whereby some 10 cent item comes from the store in $1.50 worth of plastic packaging. STUPID! Anybody here old enough to remember the Milkman? Ok, aluminum cans do have a certain recycleability, but washing milk bottles and using them over and over sure beats burning a bunch of oil to make throw-away glass or oil used to make plastic throw-away bottles or even fossil fuels used to melt aluminum cans to make new cans! What? One day I suppose the "BIG" liberal idea will be to "mine" old dumps for plastic pop bottles then made feasible by the astronomical cost of plastic.
  1. The final suggestion if for all these leftie tree-huggers to pull their heads out of their asses, start CALCULATING real quantities and make some assessments based upon some REAL numbers rather than simply "feeling good". This is MUCH too important a problem to allow political agendas to creep in and undermine any serious efforts to keep us all alive for a while. As the Romans found, the price of stupidity is to bring in a wondrous dark age where the problem is fixed not with technology but by depopulation. Not MY idea of the best choice.

I have NO doubt that one day soon some really decent source of "renewable" energy will be found. And when it is we should jump right on it without batting an eye. But until it is stupid crap like this "blogspot" only insures that all of civilization will crash and burn sooner than it already is. Think about it! Especially you engineers who are supposed to know better.

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Benj
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Don't forget about Nuke plants. Ever since the 3-mile Island plant perrformed like it was supposed to in an emergency, we have basically written off that side of energy production. China has over 200 nuke plants on the drawing board, and / or emerging. When those are online, their energy will be so cheap that we will never catch up.

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Long Ranger

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