What Wiring needed to connect phone handset lead to PC?

I want to record my my phone callsbut get poor results using a device on the line socket.

So I want to use the handset lead. There are four connectors in the socket on the main phone.

What signals are these wires carrying and what circuit do I need to get an audio-out signal to record the phone call?

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Retell sell these connector devices below for £20 and £40 (cheaper at Farnell). I would rather build one. But how?

Record connector for telephone handsets (ref 156)

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PC to telephone play and record connector (ref 157)
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Jim
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is a public one. However... You could use something as simple as a capacitor, to each of the signal lines, in series with a resistor, say 1M, and then connect to your sound card. Alternatively, a transformer arrangement, to share the signal from your handset, would provide isolation so would be a safer. You might find something on the Maplin site. Remove 'no_spam_' from email address.

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Brian A

I always used to use a telephone pickup coil. Just sticks onto the body of the phone using a suction cup. Picks up from the hybrid transformer. I think most modern phones still use a hybrid tx but it's much smaller than the older style ones, so it may be necessary to move it around to find the optimum pickup position. Be aware that strictly speaking, it is illegal to record a telephone conversation without the knowledge of the calling party. You can feed the output of one of these coils to either the phono ( turntable ) input of a hifi, or the mic input of a sound card. Maplin LB92A is the part number if you're in the UK, or should give you an idea of what you're looking for if not.

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Arfa

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Arfa Daily

That is not true. The legal position is that the class licence requires that at least one party to the call must know that it is being recorded. So if you know, they don't need to.

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hairydog

Possibly. It certainly used to be illegal in the UK under all circumstances, hence the reason that answer machines which had a live record function, such as the Panasonic 2416, produced a regular bleep to the line, once this function had been engaged. It was present as a result of a uP pin called " /BEEP " as I recall, being tied down by link. For use in other countries, where it was not illegal, it could be opened to float up, and disable the feature.

The legal position has changed and is governed by a number of individual pieces of legislation, each carrying their own caveats. Not the least of these, are data protection and human rights. It is a potential minefield, and whether or not the recording of conversations without the callers' knowledge is legal, depends to a great extent on the purpose for which the recording is being made. If it is just for your own totally private use, then it may be perfectly legal. If, however, a third party could have access to the recording in whatever format, then it may not be.

Thus, neither of us is actually totally correct in our black and white statements of " no it's not / yes it is " - in the UK at least. Therefore, it might be better to say to the OP, err on the side of caution, and make sure that you understand the legal position, for your particular application.

Arfa

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Arfa Daily

Right on Arfa. Some seem to make an assumption that because of legislation enacted in one country that "Is the rule" everywhere! A radio broadcasting station in say Europe etc. can be licensed to operate on Long Wave; i.e. a frequency beween say 125 and 300 kilohertz; in accordance with international frequency assignment treaties. In North America it is true to say "No broadcasting below 500 kilohertz" in fact the approx 550 to 1700 kilohertz band is, in the Americas, called "Broadcast Band". Occasionally I receive information/admonitions from the FCC, (Who are they? Oh yes; an American regulatory Agency) in Washington that don't apply at all here in Canada !

It also happens quite freqently here in Canada, where for example our electrical safety and wiring codes are very similar (Although perhaps a bit tougher in some respects in Canada? e.g. Microwave oven door lock switches AIUI?) But our copyright, publishing and plagiarizing laws are different to those of the USA.

Someone, for example, from say, Tennessse, may quote a regulation as they have heard in that US state; later to find that it doesn't necessarily apply in all other US states, let alone in a separate country; Canada, UK, Australia etc..

As another current example; a newly enacted US law will require returning US citizens, Canadian visitors and others to and/or seeking entry/reentry to the US to possess valid passports or other 'official' (but undefined) identification! While over 30% of Canadians, especially those used to travelling, do have passports, the percentage of US citizens holding passports is much, much lower. So it looks like there may be problem if/when many US citizens want to 'step outside'?

So real life is various shades of grey?

Reply to
Stan

The only telecomms group this was posted to is uk.telecom.mobile

Guess what the uk bit refers to!

Reply to
hairydog

Try a software solution.

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Terry

This of course, is where the problem of cross-posting pops up. The OP's original post was copied to a number of groups. You saw it in uk.telecom.mobile. We saw it in sci.electronics.repair. Whilst I am UK based, many posters on this group are US / Canada / Australia based. Just one of those things, and easily missed if you're not looking for it. I did not particularly look at the groups that the message had been posted to, just assuming a UK poster, as there was mention of Farnell and UK prices ;~}

Arfa

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Arfa Daily

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