Basic Masterkeying

These online courses seem to be very expensive, and of questionable use. For instance under the ALOA prep screen, "mandatory" is spelled "Manadatory". Not a whole lot of scholarship evident at first blush. I wouldn't put a dime into this so called training.

Thank you for the notification of the typographical error. Kind of harsh aren't we. I've seen typo's on TV, in newspapers as well as printed hardbound books. Typo's don't mean lack of "scholarship." They mean that someone may have been in too much of a hurry to get their idea across or that they suffer from "typing fatigue."

What does this typo have to do with Basic Master Keying? Nothing! I didn't type the info regarding the ALOA prep screen, though I did correct the typo. I am the teacher for Basic Master Keying. I have been teaching the class for the past 13 years, though it has been in a classroom environment. Granted, this is the first time it has been available via the internet. The first class was presented back in July and we had a successful presentation.

I remember the old saying...."Don't knock it until you try it."

Mr. Harkawy spammed this list with his commercial advertisement, inviting the subscribers to view his website and judge for themselves his line of training software. After going through the registration process the subscriber was limited to only the entry page, which had a word improperly spelled. Therefore the only evidence offered to the subscriber to make an evaluation was what I commented upon. If this vendor wants a more thorough evaluation of his product, then he needs to let whatever he thinks has value transcending the improperly spelled word be viewed by those whom he invited to his website in the first place. Until then Rabbit soft makes claims about it's product line that cannot be proven, even to the point of raising doubt as to whether the software actually exists! Until we know a LOT more, save your money folks, this smells bad to me.

Mr. Halle apparently has a thorn in his side.

1) My offer was not spam. This is a locksmith forum and the offer was for a locksmith class offered via the internet. If I had offered a way to increase his vitality, then that would have been spam.

2) I did not ask for an evaluation of my product(s). I have all the evaluations that I need. I have been a Locksmith for more than 30 years. I owned my own successful Locksmith business for more than 9 years. After selling my business, I went to work as an Industrial Locksmith for a large Aerospace Corporation in the Antelope Valley in Southern California where I specialized in master keying as well as computer controlled electronic access. I retired from them after 19 years of service. I write and sell computer master key and key tracking software for the Locksmith Industry and have been teaching master keying for the last 13 years. The organizations that I have taught for are: Progressive Trade Show Management Services of Corona, Calif., The California Locksmith's Association, and American Security Distribution of Southern Calif and now with the Security Technical Institute. Some of my master keying software customers have been Hughes Aircraft, Lockheed Martin, The Walt Disney Co. Imagineering Dept, West Texas A&M University in Canyon, Tx., Prince Edward Locksmith of Picton-Ontario, Canada, Falcon Lock Co. Bell Hardware Eugene, Or., Branson Lock of Branson, Mo., Clark Security Products of Anaheim, Ca., The Pala Casino of Pala, Ca., and others as stated on my web site

Proof of these claims are available upon written request at snipped-for-privacy@rabbitsoft.us

I make no phony claims. Progressive Trade Show Management is no longer doing Locksmith trade shows and American Security Distribution is no longer in business. If anyone has doubts as to my master keying class, contact John Brueggeman President of the California Locksmiths Association at snipped-for-privacy@yahoo.com or at snipped-for-privacy@cla4u.org Other references are also available via e-mail.

If what I offer smells bad to Mr. Halle, then may I suggest he remove his head from his backside so he can once again smell fresh air.

On 30, July 2007, Mr. Halle posted on

Jumlers > Usenet > alt > locksmithing > Thread Overview "I cannot see why anyone would waste time and money on trying to make bump proof cylinders by using rekeying techniques. Offer your customer a cylinder using the original medico design (NOT the garbage being offered today by Medico) and solve their problem."

Looks like Mr. Halle makes typo's too. That's Medeco, Mr. Halle...M...E...D...E...C...O....

As they say, what goes around, comes around.

Now, can we stop this childish game?

If I wanted to learn basic masterkeying, I would go to the public library and check out a book on the subject. It is free.

Paul,

That is a legitimate option. That is how I read the latest Harry Potter book.

With that said, there may be times when questions arise about master keying and having someone to contact with your questions is important. If you have any questions regarding master keying....e- mail me at support @ rabbitsoft dot us.

even these CD's are pretty cheap

no affiliation

Excellent question!

Answer: It is posted on two of the restricted locksmith sites, both IL and LC. I'm just trying to get the word out.

I was joking. I know that if you want to learn something specific, such as Basic Masterkeying, you should go to a specialist. You can probably find the info at the library but it will take a lot of digging to find it. And it may be outdated or too basic. And like you said, if you have any questions, you have no one to ask. I applaud you for what you are doing. Paul

There are also many institutions who aren't large enough to have a dedicated full time locksmith on hand so their maintenance men do the lock work. They too could share in the education as it is part of their job function.

Would we or should we deny it to them? I don't think so.

That's nice. Can you please go away now?

I don't even see his post. He posted what once? I see 7 at least from you.

Typo's is posessive form. Typos is plural.

Typo's makes me wonder what belongs to the typo. We can talk about the dog's tail. The locksmith's tool kit. The editor's mistake.

What belongs to the typo?

I choose not to buy from folks who insult their (potential) customers.

he is not as bad as ole Ray ?

Stormin Mormon. Whom did I insult? If giving back just a little bit more than I received is insulting, if telling someone that they are wrong is insulting, if defending one's reputation is insulting, then consider yourself "insulted."