By the way, the commercial sales were only hardware. I've never sold
any propellant. I did not make the load for The Cow Rocket. It's ok to
be a watch dog, but please check your facts before throwing out the
accusations. Not doing so makes you look simple.
Loki sells the hardware lot the loads. If you would have looked a little
closer before you started the so-Jerry-typical-old-hat TRA flamejob, you
might have caught on to that.
NAR 82797 L1
His web page shows his products being used. It is VERY clear that he does
not sell reloads. Click on 'products' produces a list of what he sells.
You made a grossly inaccurate statement. Be a man and admit you were wrong.
A forced apology is not a valuable apology.
The record was corrected by the principal and that should suffice.
There are plenty of examples of TRA-EX rule "jerry-mandering" without
relying on the one I attempted to raise (apparantly in error).
There still has not been discussion of where the loads DID come from
that are on the page at issue. For example are they ALL TRA members with
NO commercial activities including loaning propellant or renting it for
Obviously that would not be illegal or even unadviseable, only against
TRA-EX calvinball rules.
Check the archives. There were but they got tired of inaction and left.
THEY voted with their feet.
Also when I was originally blackballed circa 1991-2 the internet was far
from popular. IIRC there effectively was not even a web yet.
Furthermore the very logic of your statement does not pass the smell
And if you use Tripoli's own logic against them, where there's smoke
there's fire. Except against Tripoli there are records and proof.
Pain in the ass at TRA is not defined as rude or annoying per se. It
usually involves being witness to a crime or tort the result of which is
you are discredited with a monologue in the propoganda rag of TRA and
removed so you are allowed to be removed from meetings where you might
be so bold as to testify to your witness accounts of the crimes or torts.
Cato was removed and resigned simultasneously as the letters crossed in
the mail !!!
I was removed for approximately what I witnessed the TRA President
himself doing (TRA justice I presume). And he was also the prime
"prosecutor" on the tribunal to review my reinstatement request 10 years
later after my 3 year removal had long since ended. He of course
declined it. Conflicts of interest are a GOAL of TRA.
The removed people became rude YEARS after they were removed as a means
to force attention on the problem. As we now all know no amount of
attention brought on problems at TRA results in either addressing them
or of course solving them.
Vosecek was Treasurer (kiss of death).
Cato was the first accurate TMT chair AND personally got TRA listed as
an AHJ in NFPA-1127, etc. (kiss of death).
Founding Prefect Irvine was the largest launch host and member generator
(kiss of death).
Kaplow wasan early Prefect and rules nazi (kiss of death).
McLaughlin was a Prefect and actual RPIA by lawyerly informing TRA BOD
of all the laws and rules they were breaking with cites and evidence
(kiss of death).
Price was Kelly's neighbor and friend and witnessed skimming and other
alleged crimes and torts first hand (kiss of death).
One guy was removed for pipe bombs at Black Rock or something (the only
valid removal) He probably has been reinstated :)
Some of those pictures are from MDRA launches. They have their own
insurance, allow certified and EX at the same launch, and don't belong to
TRA or NAR. Their rules may very well allow an individual to make a motor
for someone else.
Doesn't Tripoli EX allow use of an EX motor if the person who made it is
part of the team launching the rocket? The person who made the motor does
not need to be the person who made the rocket.
No, but I think the person who made the motor has to be a TRA member.
That way, as long as TRA refuses to renew Jerry's membership, they
can keep everyone from using "Jerry motors" at "EX" launches. :)
You fail to realize that I live in the present. 10 years ago I was to
busy inventing the internet to be playing with rockets. Also things
at TRA have changed a little since your pal Brucie is no longer king.