# T6 heat treatment, penetration depth?

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I have a centrifugal fan. The blades on the fan are made of 6061 aluminum. The aluminum blades were heat treated to be 6061-T6 Al.

How do I determine the penetration depth of the T6 layer? If the thickness of the blades is too great I can imagine the center of the blade would not have T6 properties.

Is this information available in any text or is this a mass / heat transfer problem?

Thank you.

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self snipped-for-privacy@yahoo.com (Self Balancing) wrote in news: snipped-for-privacy@posting.google.com:

6061T6 will have nearly uniform mechanical properties throughout the piece. Perhaps you are confusing heat treatment with case hardening.
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Another way to say what I am looking for:

Say I have a sheet of Al 3'x3'x1". It is 6061 Al. I take this 6061 Al, solution heat treat it, quench it, then artificially age it. I follow the T6 specs for doing this (solution heat treat at 985F, quench, age at 320F for 18 hr). Will the entire sheet be considered T6. Or do the properties change throughout the thickness of the sheet?

It would be like putting a frozen turkey in the oven. You could cook the outside but the middle would still be frozen. The properties wouldn't be uniform throughout the turkey. This has to do with thermal conductivity, heat transfer, etc.

Is there anywhere in text (perhaps a chart or some equations) that say "for a sheet of Aluminum X" thick, there will be a T6 gradient of y = mx + b beginning from the surface? Or something similar? Thank you.

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Turkeys have two things going against them:

1) low thermal conductivity 2) An appreciable rreservoir of change of state material holding them at a thermal barrier around 100degC

Aluminum billets have two things going for them

1) Heat treat times very long compared with thermal transit time 2) no huge change of state barriers

Brian W

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At the risk of repeating myself, 6061T6 will have nearly uniform mechanical properties throughout the piece. Your turkey analogy shows the problems of arguing via analogy without fully understanding all the relevant processes. (Whenever some argues by analogy a voice in your head should scream, "Danger Will Robinson!") The aluminum in homogenous, the turkey is not. The heat soak is long relative to aluminum's heat transfer coefficient as is the aging. If the turkey is frozen in the middle, the heat soak was too short.

If you want to stick with your analogy (this isn't really analogous either) think of the solution heating as thawing the turkey overnight and the aging as baking at 350 for several hours. Uniform doneness and a happy crowd at dinner. No stresses left in the turkey, nor any in the diners.

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Any reasonably well set up consulting metalurgist will be able to advise you "off the cuff" & then take a sample, cut sections & hardness test. Such a simple routine should cost no more than \$200. The alternative is to phone a local aluninium foundry, they produce lots of castings which eventually end up "T6" treated & they should have a good idea of the effects. Alternative 2 get a book out, there's no difficulty sourcing info on T6 treatment of aluminium.

Rgds Pete

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If strength is critical, you'd be much better off with AL 2219 or AL 7075. 2219 is OK for welding if that's what you need.

Strength is a function of heat treat thickness. Strength doesn't vary much until the thickness is 1 in or greater. Strength properties for different thicknesses are available.

Look up AL 6061-T6 in MIL-HDBK-5, Metallic Materials And Elements For Aerospace Vehicle Structures here: