build yer own lower

Whoever inherits it needs to do the paperwork for an NFA firearm. Remember this applies to NFA firearms, not to "ordinary" firearms.

The paperwork is confusing since it generically refers to "firearm" in the title, however further into the forms they specifically refer to NFA firearms only. Look at ATF form 1 which is titled "Application to Make and Register a Firearm", but further down on the instruction page it specifically refers to NFA firearms only. It also has "Estate Procedures: For procedures regarding the transfer of firearms in an estate resulting from the death of the registrant identified in item 3, the executor should contact the NFA Branch, Bureau of the ATF...". You can download the forms from the BATFE site.

Production fixtures would probably use hydraulic clamping, and be able to flip the part around and reclamp in a matter of seconds and/or use palletized fixtures holding a number of the parts at a time for quick changes in the machine and off-line reclamping.

For the low volume us HSM types do, you can't beat 1/2" socket head cap screws holding a part in a custom pocket. Use an impact wrench to change parts in a few seconds. Often one screw will do. Two will hold dang near anything. Another great device is a toggle clamp

Karl

Bzzt-WRONG ANSWER. It is NOT an NFA firearm unless it's full-auto or shorter than legal length(26") or has a short barrel(

I know exactly what my time is worth. the only job I've collected a salary for in the last 25 years is Township Supervisor. It pays $600 a year and I put in 150 hours to collect it. So $4 an hour is about right.

I remember talking to another fella in my business. He said,"I don't mind the minimum wage but i do wish I could earn that much"

Seriously, the goal here is to do something to be proud of this winter. AND, do it in the heated shop.

Karl

I'll guess 100 - 150 hours to make the first good one, then 1/2 hour a piece after that.

I must have missed the message that changed the issue from manufacturing a receiver to making an NFA weapon. AFAIK, you can't make an NFA weapon for your own use as of 1986.

David

Early on the thread discussed the legality of making your own AR lower. There was a lot of confusion about restrictions with people confusing NFA only restrictions as applying to non NFA firearms.

You also seem to be confused about NFA firearms, as the 1986 date you refer to only applies to full-auto machine guns, and not to other NFA firearms like short barreled rifles, silencers, etc.

I'm vaguely kicking around the idea of sending in the paperwork and $200 to get a tax stamp and paperwork to legally build a silencer, but I'm not sure if I have enough ambition to do all the paperwork.

Those taps are made by grinding.

I didn't know that. Got a link to the procedure? Sounds interesting.

-- Make the best use of what is in your power, and take the rest as it happens. -- Epictetus

Yes, my statement was overly broad, but I meant it in the context of the discussion which was about AR-15 lower receivers.

As I understand it, a short barrel rifle with a suppressor requires only one tax stamp. I've been kicking around the idea of something like a deLisle carbine based on a '93 Mauser action.

David

David

Wow, those are some fine ridges on those grinding wheels, aren't they? Amazing process.

-- Make the best use of what is in your power, and take the rest as it happens. -- Epictetus

The thread grinder I worked on had a "single point" dress rather than the form dress. Cool. I'd never seen it done that way before. Course, we were doing non repetetive "production" rather than the same part over and over. You never knew what diameter or pitch was coming next.

Karl, it's been a while, but I did measure them for the same concerns. I have 4, and they came from different sources. One is considerably brighter in color than the other. At any rate, the width varied about .010 IIRC

Here's a project that'll keep you going all winter:

Gunner Asch on Thu, 30 Dec 2010 06:14:19 -0800 typed in rec.crafts.metalworking the following:

Ah, but the 9th Circus ruled that if you are forbidden from purchasing a firearm, then it is permissible to make it. I'm not sure how they ruled on the "felon in possession" charges, but it would seem clear to me, if you can't buy one, then you are not interfering with interstate trade by making one for your own use.

Gunner Asch on Sun, 02 Jan 2011 01:05:19 -0800 typed in rec.crafts.metalworking the following:

Oooh, that is a badly constructed law. Or a bad law, badly constructed. "All that is not explicitly permitted is forbidden" is Chicom Law in a Nutshell. US law is "everything not explicitly forbidden is permitted", and Italy is said to be "Everything is permitted, even that which is forbidden."

Well, I would do that. I'd be theoretically giving them away. I decided to give them away, and they spontaneously decided to make a donation to the Blacks Beach Scenic Vista Preservation Society - but only to those who are likewise forbidden from ownership. After all, I do not want to interfere with Interstate Commerce.

Another old high school chant "Give 'em the ax, Give the ax, give the ax, ax, ax! In the Neck, in the neck, in the neck, neck, neck!" And that was the Marching Band's chant. (It was the sort of neighbourhood where we had holdups using "bitten off shotguns".)

waa-dee-doo-dah!

pyotr

-- pyotr filipivich "We are today in the most literal sense a lawless society, for our law has ceased to be law and become instead its opposite -- mere force at the disposal of whoever is at the controls." Charles A. Reich, _Peters Quotations_, (c) 1977.