AR-15 lower build

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AR-15s are great. We have "His" and "Hers" at my house.

Steve.

No, I thought you didn't get my mail. Check your address book, there might be a bad address in there. My fault, I might have a notebook set-up wrong and it might be showing a return address that I don't use connected to my DSL at-home account. Resend to my normal address at work.

I did check that DSL account for the first time in months and noticed you had a couple of e-mails in there that were addressed to Don Forman, so your e-mailing is messed-up too. But, nothing on AR-15s.

--I've often thought it might be fun to rebuild this action for a

Tom,

There is a you-build-it forum on

I am particularly enamored of a piece-by-piece build that someone did a few years ago. If I can find the photos, I will email them to you. He had only a tiny mill, so he used separate chunks of metal, held together by screws, for the front end, the two sides of the magazine well, the hammer/trigger section, the sides of the hammer/trigger section (for the pin holes), and the threaded hole on the back. It was a very neat solution for the limitations of his tools.

As for parts, there are plenty of places selling a "complete lower parts kit". Uppers are arguably best purchased already assembled, as the tooling to do the job right can get pretty pricey, and they are a little less forgiving to put together than the lower's parts.

Yes remove the (no spam), it's "tom-at-mybusiness-dot-com

I'm up to 500+ spam a day, I'm getting paranoid about being harvested again and again.

I'm looking forward to your thoughts, I knew you would have the Motts.

I've read big-time on the AR-15.com forums and followed a zillion links from there. I too was amazed at the stuff people have done with sharp sticks and rocks for tooling.

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Hi Tom,

If you haven't visited this site, you'll want to:

StaticsJason

No desire for "The Black Rifle". uncomfortable to carry slung, rattles, sights could be improved, PITA to clean. An M1 has more glitz.

I hope the XM-8 finally gets issued.

Give me Metalstorm for lots of lead.

On 01 May 2006 19:26:41 GMT, with neither quill nor qualm, steamer quickly quoth:

Diameter or length, Ed?

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On Mon, 01 May 2006 20:17:55 -0500, with neither quill nor qualm, Louis Ohland quickly quoth:

Metalstorm? That's what Tom Gardener needed for use outside his shop during the burglary streak. And mount one on the roof for those people who would get bad ideas. A perimeter wire would immediately light it at night so they'd know they were being detected.

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Yup. I've got a pretty good sized collection, and nothing in the AR family. Building one myself, though, does have a certain appeal.

Which, technically, is a muzzleloader, isn't it?

--Ha! Diameter; I've got a thousand rounds sitting in buckets in the shed. Missing cases, unfortunately, so I'll have to find them or fab them.

I took a 20mm round apart and used the inert bullet to make a nice plumb bob!

Steve.

I appreciate the humor! Interesting subject right now, I've been having a bunch of long conversations with one of my engineers for the past week or so about firearms...probably catalyzed by my upcoming AR-15 build. I've been retrospective about what guns are for and every time I went down to the shop after the alarm and went through the place (it's like a rabbit warren) gun-in-hand with my heart pounding...God I hate that feeling! I don't feel so embarrassed, Roger my engineer says He feels the same way when he's done the sweep thing and he was Special Forces in Nam, an instructor teaching combat/defensive and was in the unfortunate situation of having to shoot and kill two tangos that tried to assault him and his wife that were working late at his business. God, I don't want to kill anybody especially over "stuff" that can be replaced but God help anybody that threatens me or mine! Stuff can be replaced!

I made the mistake of congratulating a guy that DIDN'T use a gun when he might have on the rec guns newsgroup while looking for AR-15 info and was BLASTED as a pussy anti-gun liberal...that's where the scary gun idiots are!

So, Roger explained the facts of life to me as we were discussing the pros and cons of carrying a gun. There are a LOT of people that have guns that shouldn't and my point was that if people (not all) have a gun, they are more inclined to use it rather than use their head. Roger usually carries, I usually don't. I WAY trust him with my life to carry but there are very few people that I DO trust with a gun. Most people think that they automatically become gun experts and psychology experts due to the fact of ownership It seems that gun owners fit loosely in four categories: Hunters, Target, Defensive/combat shooters and idiots. The categories don't overlap much...especially the idiots with guns...and they scare me!

So, no roof nests for me but a shiny new AR-15 and the fun of machining the lower from a billet, I will cop-out and buy the jig.

Thankfully there's not much need to carry around here. Aside from the aesthetic qualities of the 16, wouldn't a pistol be better for close quarters? Put a good laser or a holo site on it and use a 10MM. Bet you could easily reach out to 75yds....

I'd rather build an electric gatl>> On Mon, 01 May 2006 20:17:55 -0500, with neither quill nor qualm,

THAT I want to see!

I only want the AR because of the ease of building one and it would be fairly cheap. I have enough pistols for a while and can't think of one that would excite me. I don't have a really BIG one like a Casull but even I can't justify it. I already have two 5.56mm rifles so I have plenty of supplies and dies. Like you said, the aesthetic qualities are probably my biggest draw and I like the engineering. Definitely not for a "situation".

Years ago my girlfriend (now wife) called me and told me some drunk was pounding on her door at 2 am and kept it up for a while before leaving and she was scared to death. It was a VERY small apartment, 2nd floor, so nowhere to run or escape. So I brought over one of my handguns and gave her some instructions (she grew up hunting but didn't have much handgun experience). She was concerned about needed to go to the range to practice and my reply was "If someone breaks the glass and is reaching in to unlock the door, just fire a shot into the drywall over the door. I doubt they will stick around to see if your aim improves with the second try".

Steve.

Chances are their underwear wouldn't improve either.