I test fired the AR-15 today, 29 rounds with no problems (except for
dropping 1 round, metal detector to come out later, have to locate some
brass too!). I shot up a can from fairly close range, need to set up target
at a distance and get the iron sights set. Nineteen shots were factory ammo
and 10 were reloads.
RogerN
Is that the .308 version? I've seen Armalite, IIRC, has an "AR-10" that
shoots .308, 7.62 NATO.
I've been looking at the .300 AAC Blackout, it seems to be a 30 caliber
round in a 223 case with similar ballistics to the 7.62 X 39. The advantage
is supposed to be that all you need to change is the barrel, the magazines
for the 5.56 / 223 fit the 300 blackout. They're supposed to be for ~100 -
200 grain bullets. Still hard to find many items in stock, I'd like to find
other reasonable priced 80% lowers.
I saw some 50 BMG uppers that fit on AR-15 lowers, bolt action though.
RogerN
But, what will liberals think? Do you live near a school?
Me, being conservative. What's the advantage of a rifle that small? Typical
FMJ of 55 grains.
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I test fired the AR-15 today, 29 rounds with no problems (except for
dropping 1 round, metal detector to come out later, have to locate some
brass too!). I shot up a can from fairly close range, need to set up target
at a distance and get the iron sights set. Nineteen shots were factory ammo
and 10 were reloads.
RogerN
No nearby schools. Then only reason I'd have to want a gun around a school
is if someone was there hurting the kids, another Adama Lanza a--hole type.
But that's the kind of people this liberal, anti-morality society produces.
It would be terrible if Adam Lanza would have read in school that "Thou
shall not kill" and might have obeyed it!
They often shoot 70-80 grain bullets at 500-600 yards from what I've read.
The advantage of the small cartridge is that you can get 30 of them in a
pretty small magazine. In the same size brass, using the same bolt,
magazines,.. just change the barrel and you can use 30 caliber bullets in
the 100-200 grain range.
Now, if you're a Christian they label you as a terrorist, the leftist put
Christians on their list of terrorists before Islamic extremists. Never
mind the fact that almost all acts of terrorism come from the Muslims, they
ignore that, it's the people that believe in Jesus that they claim are
terrorists. The people that flew planes loaded with civilians into
buildings full of civilians, they aren't terrorists according to the left,
the people that celebrate Christmas & Easter are the terrorists per them.
Their kind hated Jesus without reason and today they hate those who believe
in Jesus, just like the Bible said they would.
RogerN
"RogerN" on Sun, 14 Apr 2013 21:38:34 -0500 typed
in rec.crafts.metalworking the following:
The liberals will "think" nothing. They are as free of the
ravages of intelligent "thought" as it is possible and still simulate
sentience.
OTOH, the Liberals will emote like teenage girls at a Justine
Beiber concert. Pavlov's dogs look at liberals and say "Have you no
self-control?"
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pyotr filipivich
"With Age comes Wisdom. Although more often, Age travels alone."
Actually, if you read a little history you'll find that the Christians
have likely killed more people than probably anyone else. The Mongol
Hordes used to massacre entire cities but they were only around for a
few years. the Christians have been at it for nearly 2,000 years.
This.
The problem is that liberalizm is just another religion essentially and
all religions are subject to their zealots. You can't run a country on
"feelings" any more than you can run one on "faith", only rational
critical thinking and dealing with issues instead of being mindlessly
mired in an ideology can produce progress.
You don't HAVE to use FMJ if you're a civilian. It's just that that's
been cheap ammo to plink with in the past. Not so much now, over a
buck a shot, no surplus, it's all been shot up in the world wars. And
55 gr FMJ is Vietnam-era stuff, twists have changed since that time,
current issue stuff is heavier, 69 gr. is popular. Long range target
shooters will use much heavier stuff than that, up to 90-100 grains.
Have to single load them, though, too long for a magazine. Anyway,
you can get most any weight from 32 grains on up in .224" bullets.
The jacket thickness determines what it's used for. Not quite mouse
to elephant, but guys do use the AR with heavier bullets and thicker
jackets for hogs and antelope, among other critters, where legal.
Most bullets sold in .224" size are for varmint shooting, there's a
whole line of non-lead bullets called "Varmint Grenades". My dog gun
will do one hole groups with the right reloads, some guys have won
benchrest competitions with ARs. Not your granddaddy's M16 anymore.
40-50 years of competition shooting will do that.
As far as "advantage", it's the same as it's always been, light
weight, low recoil, very accurate, easy to keep going. Worn-out
barrel replacement is easy with some minimal tooling, basically a drop
in thing with torqueing a big nut up to spec. Caliber/barrel length
change is easier, just pull out two pins and drop on another upper in
the desired caliber. .17 to .50 BMG are available. Want a short
carbine, 20 seconds will do it. Ditto for a long barrel varmint gun.
Want a short-range hog buster, there's the .450 Bushmaster. All
developed on the private industry nickel, not some government
program. Brownell's has a catalog just for ARs and derivatives that's
about the size of their early '70s catalogs, thicker even than the one
for 1911 pistols.
Stan
I think the caliber that would interest me is 6mm PPC or other ultra
accurate bench rest. I had a .240 Gibbs that could well but it's really
obsolete now with some of the new wildcats and even off-the-shelf stuff.
Problem is, I just don't have any real use for a rifle toy or a
convenient place to use it.
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