Building drainage issues

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It's a bit sickening how often that word is misspelt. ;-)

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Spehro Pefhany
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Right.

I love it. But next time, please use an underscore or it doesn't stay linked, ending on "oh".

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Larry Jaques

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Winston

:)

Spiel czech rescued me from that, just in time.

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Winston

Wow, I miss tit, two.

Reply to
Larry Jaques

Umm, no, they don't...

Rerouting water flow and storm run off on a property is an environmental concern in which the local authority having jurisdiction and the state department of environmental protection have input into...

You can't just start digging and installing drains -- you must assess the amount of water you are dealing with and create a properly sized water detention area on your site to deal with the volume of water which is causing the problem... The design/hearing/approvals process on an issue like that takes MONTHS minimum...

The only IMMEDIATE measure the building owner can take is to put out sandbags...

The authority having jurisdiction must determine where any excess water above and beyond the design capacity of the approved on-site detention facilities is to be discharged, lest the property owner decide that on their own and cause someone else flooding problems based on an un-permitted and un-approved water control solution...

You can't just dig up around the perimeter of the building, install drainage tiles and filter fabric/stone and pipe it to daylight downhill somewhere... It is a lot more complicated than that...

~~ Evan

Reply to
Evan

I helped a liberal, whose basement was flooding.

He and I argued the whole time. He is good at sculptures of the female form, but not at working on cars. I kept telling him that he is in charge of painting mountain streams and I am in charge of designing drainage ditches. He kept calling me a slope NAZI. I told him that slope was important to me. It sounded like another right wind conspiracy to make him dig deeper. The basement never flooded again. He is probably down in his basement, casting forms of girls with bare breasts right now. He thinks cause and effect goes from his whimsical emotions, out his eyes, and into the block of material that contains the future sculpture.

Meanwhile, I am a slave to reality.

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clarkmagnuson

Absolutely right, Evan. All the more complicated by the Federal EPA rules. They have forced ALL cities over a certain size to do this, even here in the desert where the average precipitation for a year is about 8".

Paul

Reply to
Paul Drahn

I do not think that anyone would care, or notice, if I hire a landscaper with a Bobcat and clean up my property a little bit, without paying high priced environmental consultancies.

And yes, I did talk to the village office.

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Ignoramus8740

~~ Evan

I had two such ponds dug on our property when I began construction (shop and house).

They have proven to be one of the best decisions I made. They handle all the runoff with ease, and there's more than enough of it here in Western Washington. I heartily endorse the idea.

Harold

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Harold & Susan Vordos

You claiming to know the rules and practices in all parts of the country? Again, you're assuming worse case, and throwing out FUD, which seems to be your main contribution here.

The solution could be as simple as the grading being incorrect along

15 ft on one side of the building. It might just need to be raised 6 inches near the building and re-graded to flow away onto the lawn. Or install a 10 ft drain line that takes water from a gutter downspout and brings it out to a lower spot on the lawn. You telling us that either of those requires an EPA permit and months to do? Those are done all the time here in NJ, one of the most regulated places in the country, by everyone from building owners themselves, to landscapers, without any permits.

As for your sandbags, that's pretty much BS. The water is still going to pool up and likely make it into the building. Plus it should look really great.

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trader4

Here in Oregon, we contractors are schooled in how not to hose the environment. It's part of our legal courses in obtaining our licenses. I'm sure it is there, too. If we/they screw up, it's fixed at our expense, usually great. We try very hard not to do that. Just make sure the guy you hire is licensed, insured, and bonded. It ensures that he takes the risks. For something like this, it's a good idea to ask for references and check them. Grading is an art.

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Larry Jaques

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