Does anyone have a very rough figure for the size of tank needed if you
were to connect a one inch pipe to the outlet and needed about five
seconds worth of decent flow. I know this is very vague but I am
working on a project and have been testing out friends compressors but
not with a one inch outlet just the standard quarter inch.
I am guessing that I could be looking at a tank well over 500 litres or
100 gallons in size but only a rough guess.
Thanks
" snipped-for-privacy@hotmail.com" wrote in
news: snipped-for-privacy@f1g2000cwa.googlegroups.com:
Not enough info.
You can't calculate unless you have some numbers to go from. How many
CFM at what pressure do you need? You gave the time. Without the other
two variables, no calculation is possible.
I agree that you do not have enough information, but the site below
might be helpful.
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Note that at 90 psi, with an outlet of 100 feet of 1 inch pipe, the
pressure drop will only be 28 pounds at 350 SCFM! (The chart stops at
350 SCFM). (In other words, if the end of the 100 foot pipe is wide
open, the actual SCFM will be more than 350 SCFM). 350 SCFM is a lot of
air. 5 seconds at 350 SCFM is 29 SCF, which is only 5 cubic feet at 90
PSI. My guess is that you don't need a 100 gallon air tank, that 20
gallons might be enough. Finding a 20 gallon air tank with a one inch
pipe thread outlet might be a problem. My 60 gallon compressor is piped
through a 1/2 inch valve, but it appears that the tank has a 2 inch
outlet. A length of 6 inch pipe might have plenty of gallons for your
purpose.
But of course, I don't know if 350 SCFM is enough in your application.
Richard
snipped-for-privacy@hotmail.com wrote:
Thanks for trying to assist. If I understand correctly the scfm refers
to the pump filling the receiver and depending upon pump size/tank size
is how long the pump operates before cutting in again. I am more
interested in how long the tank will last and if I assume a typical
tank has a max pressure of 150psi then I am trying to figure out how
big a tank might be needed for a five second run - through a one inch
pipe - say 150psi dropping to 100psi.
Thanks again
You probably will need to follow up some of the technical refs listed
by other posters, but as a practical data point, 6-gallon tire bead
seating tanks with 1.5" valves empty in less than a second or two.
(Example pictures at
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and
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where the last one is
an 8-gallon tank, possibly with a bigger valve, and a small picture of
it in use.)
-jiw
It ultimately depends on how much SCFM you need, which refers to both
pump size (flow in) and usage (flow out). SCFM is very relevant to
solving the problem of how large a tank you need, as well as how much
air might flow through a given pipe at a given pressure drop.
I think that it is very unlikely that the amount of air you need is as
much as would come out of a one inch pipe that was wide open. What are
you trying to do?
You might be best advised to borrow or rent a compressor to play with,
and figure out what you need experimentally. I am guessing that you do
not have an engineering or other background that would enable you do
answer this question with a pencil and a calculator.
Another problem with your application is that since the tank pressure
will drop during the 5 second use period, so will the airflow. A
pressure regulator large enough for the kind of flow you are talking
about might be large and expensive, although it should produce a
relatively constant flow as the tank pressure drops. You could use the
pressure regulator, combined with a throttling valve downstream of the
regulator, to control the airflow.
Richard
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