flash burn

On Thu, 27 Oct 2005 16:48:06 GMT, with neither quill nor qualm, Gunner quickly quoth:

OK.

The Optho gave me some steroid eye drops and told me that I had some kind of virus in my eye. Strange. Cha Ching: $68.

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On Thu, 27 Oct 2005 16:49:15 GMT, with neither quill nor qualm, Gunner quickly quoth:

NOW he tells me. ;) I ended up with Econopred Plus. It's only an anti-inflammatory, not an antibiotic. Instead, I'm taking echinacea/ goldenseal, much preferring herbal to chemical when possible. I'll use the drops only to save wear and tear on my eyeball, tapering off ASAP.

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Speaking of arc flash, I need to throw something out to the group. Many times when I am working on a project with the mig welder, I will hold two pieces together with one hand and tack with the mig torch with the other. Since it is only a tack, I just close my eyes for the mostly 1 sec. it takes to do the tack. I have NEVER had any problem doing this. What's the group's opinion? Am I living too close to the edge? Bill.

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lathenut

that seems to be the approved method on Orange County choppers. I have certainly done it to get something tacked enough to proceed.

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DanG

You will eventually burn you face or arms. Closing your eyelids does little. To prevent flash all you have to do is wear safety glasses. Regular clear safety glasses will save you. You should be wearing them anyway. When you tack wear gloves and shield the arc with the glove of you other hand. Just cover the area with your gloved hand and pull the trigger. If you are holding with your free hand another way is to tip your head down while you are wearing a hat with visor. I used to hold material for my welder on aluminum projects by using the peak of my hard hat as a shield. Randy

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R. Zimmerman

There's a lot of truth to the ol' "You never see the arc that gets you."

As for the gent who blinks while tacking. All I can say is that at least half the tacks made in the structural steel industry, are make this way. Doesn't strike me as the best idea, but who am I to say?

I've heard numerious times from people I respect that raw potatos help quite a bit. I've also heard that raw steak helps. I doubtful about steak.

The best thing is to go to an emergency room, or urgent care clinic. And until you get there, do the raw potato thing. Try it, nothing to lose.

Good luck, John

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john

I got something like that from an experimental Sun terminal. The unit was a super sized tube and very high voltage - it was 1M pixel x 1M pixel in 86. My '%#%#%$#' manager? if you know what I mean - would come by my office and bang on the back of the case. The gun system would wobble and go nuts - He loved it. It made me mad. One day, the tube bloomed on me. I got second degree burns on my face and first under two shirts. It was winter time and the manager the next day asked if I was sun bathing. It came to 'fix' the issue and one look at me and the tube - it was yanked off the table just then and put on the floor. They knew the danger of 30+kv in those tubes.

I had to stay away from x-rays for a couple of years. Over exposure. I like these flat screens. We have 3 of them.

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CJ

I forgot to mention in my last post to tell you to carefully check your hood for leaks & dark glass for cracks. ( I perfered the Huntsman hard fiber hoods w/ rivets holding it together. If these were allowed to get damp, they would pull away from the rivets, leaving small leaks, requiring patching w/ dark silicon calking.) Aslo check behind where you were welding for a surface that could reflect your arc back to the inside of your hood. (Such as a white wall, but it could also come from the I.D. of a pipe if you were welding on the inside of it. Was another welder welding behind you? Just make sure you find the source of the arc flash. Many "arc flashes" aren't flashes at all, but slowly aculiminated over the course of several hours. Thus the ol' "You never see the arc that gets you."

Again good luck, John

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john

I do this with some regularity, but I hold the gun so Im looking at the back of it..and Im shielded from the arc by the gun itself. I dont make a point of it..but I can weld or tack a short bit and not feel any ill effects.. Long term...shrug

Gunner

"Pax Americana is a philosophy. Hardly an empire. Making sure other people play nice and dont kill each other (and us) off in job lots is hardly empire building, particularly when you give them self determination under "play nice" rules.

Think of it as having your older brother knock the shit out of you for torturing the cat." Gunner

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Gunner

No, sorry! I don't know. The times when I got flash burns are long gone. I learned to pay attention and to avoid the "I can tack weld with my eyes shut". But mountaineers should know a similar remedy. They have the same problem. Dura Ultra is a remedy here in Germany. And the shop I worked at had it in their first aid kit.

Yes, it's a pain. I would prefeer sleeping on RockWool. :-)))

Nick

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Nick Müller

For once and a while, that works. Doing it several times a day: NO! When I do it, I close my eyes _and_ turn my head away. Anyhow, I prefer having an auto helmet. I even use it for tacking. I got flash burn when I just closed my eyes.

Nick (late answer is still an answer)

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Nick Müller

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