New material pushes the boundary of blackness

CHICAGO (Reuters) - U.S. researchers said on Tuesday they have made the darkest material on Earth, a substance so black it absorbs more than 99.9 percent of light. ADVERTISEMENT

Made from tiny tubes of carbon standing on end, this material is almost 30 times darker than a carbon substance used by the U.S. National Institute of Standards and Technology as the current benchmark of blackness.

And the material is close to the long-sought ideal black, which could absorb all colors of light and reflect none.

"All the light that goes in is basically absorbed," Pulickel Ajayan, who led the research team at Rice University in Houston, said in a telephone interview. "It is almost pushing the limit of how much light can be absorbed into one material."

The substance has a total reflective index of 0.045 percent -- which is more than three times darker than the nickel-phosphorous alloy that now holds the record as the world's darkest material.

Basic black paint, by comparison, has a reflective index of 5 percent to 10 percent.

The researchers are seeking a world's darkest material designation by Guinness World Records. But their work will likely yield more than just bragging rights.

Ajayan said the material could be used in solar energy conversion. "You could think of a material that basically collects all the light that falls into it," he said.

It could also could be used in infrared detection or astronomical observation.

THREE-FOLD BLACKNESS

Ajayan, who worked with a team at Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute in Troy, New York, said the material gets its blackness from three things.

It is composed of carbon nano-tubes, tiny tubes of tightly rolled carbon that are 400 hundred times smaller than the diameter of a strand of hair. The carbon helps absorb some of the light.

These tubes are standing on end, much like a patch of grass. This arrangement traps light in the tiny gaps between the "blades."

The researchers have also made the surface of this carbon nano-tube carpet irregular and rough to cut down on reflectivity.

"Such a nano-tube array not only reflects light weakly, but also absorbs light strongly," said Shawn-Yu Lin, a professor of physics at Rensselaer, who helped make the substance.

The researchers have tested the material on visible light only. Now they want to see how it fares against infrared and ultraviolet light, and other wavelengths such as radiation used in communications systems.

"If you could make materials that would block these radiations, it could have serious applications for stealth and defense," Ajayan said.

The work was released online last week and will be published in an upcoming issue of the journal Nano Letters. The Indian-born Ajayan holds the 2006 Guinness World Record as co-inventor of the smallest brush in the world.

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Ignoramus13560
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Part of your brain?

Nick

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Nick Mueller

I have often wondered how something could be x times smaller than something else. Anything more than 1 times smaller becomes negative, doesn't it?

If the carbon tubes are 400 times smaller than a human hair, they must be made of dark matter, not carbon.

Paul

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co_farmer

No. A 1 inch bolt is 5 times smaller than a 5 inch bolt. It is not negative.

That carbon, apparently, is a very dark matter indeed. :)

It is very easy to make a very dark area in your house.

Just take a cardboard box, paint it black inside, and make not too large opening in it. That opening wil be very black. If you make the inside surface irregular (for instance, glue crumpled black paper to inside), it will be even more black.

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Ignoramus13560

Saying something is "X times smaller" is an awkward and confusing way to put it, to be sure. What they should say is that it's "one four-hundredth as thick," or something like that. But most people know what they're getting at.

A nanotube of that proportion is around 7.5 * 10^-6 inches thick. That's pretty thin, but it's still visible under an optical microscope.

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Ed Huntress

" snipped-for-privacy@coinet.com" wrote: I have often wondered how something could be x times smaller than

^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ Language is funny, isn't it? For x times smaller, read "1/x times as large." If we said something is 50% smaller, there would be no confustion--it would be half as big. Take this to 100%, and the thing disappears. No one but a mathematician would ever say it that way. When we say something is 5 times smaller, we don't mean it turned inside out and became negative space, although that's how it would look on a computer screen.

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Leo Lichtman

No, that is not correct, a 1 inch bolt has a diameter one fifth that of a 5 inch bolt.

Tom

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Tom

Saying "1 inch bolt has a diameter one fifth that of a 5 inch bolt" is the same as saying "5 times smaller diameter".

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Ignoramus13560

I think it could be revolutionary...! The ultimate solar collector. However it needs many other attributes not yet stated like heat stability, conductivity etc. How is it constructed? Will it be affordable? The ultimate anechoic chamber liner. Does it have a name yet? Steve

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Steve Lusardi

Ignoramus13560 fired this volley in news:EaidnfD9z85oCBLanZ2dnUVZ snipped-for-privacy@giganews.com:

THAT is an absolutely impossible use of the language. It is NOT 5 times smaller, it is one-fifth the size. Five TIMES smaller is -20 inches.

LLoyd

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Lloyd E. Sponenburgh

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Pure carbon is pretty damn thermally stable, can be very conductive, and since these are tubes, very very dark (because the tube is doing all those internal absorptions and re-reflections and re-absorptions.

Can't work as a sound absorbant in the same way as it absorbs light, though. It could be used simply as damping fiber in an iso-thermal cavity. There are cheaper fibers equal to that task.

LLoyd

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Lloyd E. Sponenburgh

"Lloyd E. Sponenburgh" fired this volley in news:Xns9A2896FBAA5C0lloydspmindspringcom@216.168.3.70:

Iggy, lest the language gets you confused, consider: ONE time smaller takes it all the way to zero. ONE times anything is 100% of it.

Then you get the dopy commercials that advertize percents over 100 as reductions. "200% less plaque when you use Spit-O-Dent!"

LLoyd

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Lloyd E. Sponenburgh

times smaller becomes negative,

I guess that is the problem. BS in math, 34 years computer programming/ systems analysis/data communications. Sometimes I just have to blow off the built up steam!

The same applies to the use of "cusp". when I first heard it I had a memory of that in my first year calculus book. Looked it up and sure enough, the cusp is when a curve touches the X-axis. Now, what that has to do with the current usage, I don't know.

Same applies to the use of "trend". The trend is the second deritive of the equation of a curve, ie. the acceleration. It tell you whether the slope of the curve is increasing or decreasing. It is a number between -1 and +1. A very useful concept. Current usage says nothing.

Here is one that REALLY gets me going: "one of the only". I first saw it written relating to an attorney in our little town. "He was one of the only lawyers in town". Excuse me! I saw it again yesterday in the local paper. It was about a farmer attempting to grow some crop here in the desert. The report said his method was "one of the only ways to grow the crop".

Language can be specific, but people use it to obfuscate. The writers in newspapers usually don't have a clue about what they are writing and want people to think they are REALLY smart and informed.

There, the steam has been released! Back to cutting metal.

Paul

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co_farmer

"Steve Lusardi" wrote: I think it could be revolutionary...! The ultimate solar collector. (clip) ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ Not as good as it sounds at first. Lets say you had a solar collector that had an absorbtivity of only 85%. Lets say you could buy one that had an absorbtivity of 100%. What would you gain? For 100 watts falling in the surface, your collection rate would increase by 15 watts, which is only an

18% improvement. Your money would be better spent adding 18% more area. The benefit comes in an application where the reflected energy is working against you, like the inside of a camera, or an astronomical instrument that collects light from a star and tries to measure it.
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Leo Lichtman

It's revolutionary for setting records and for giving academicians something to write about. In terms of it's effect as a heat collector, it will add maybe 2% or 3% to the best coatings currently used for solar heating. You wouldn't even notice the difference.

I think their real interest lies in the non-visible spectrum, where it may have some specialty applications.

-- Ed Huntress

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Ed Huntress

And only until it gets dirty!

Best regards, Spehro Pefhany

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Spehro Pefhany

According to the OED, the more common usages predate the mathematical definition. I think you have the mathematical definition confused.

Again, the use of "trend" as a mathematical term is relatively recent. And I think the term, at least as it's used in statistics, is much more complicated than 2nd derivative. And why would the 2nd derivative of a function be limited to -1 to +1?

It's an idiom. The fact that it sounds absurd when you really think about it doesn't mean it's not a legitimate bit of English.

I think it's more often ignorance than pretension.

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Ned Simmons

They are going to call it...Electonium!

Reply to
Tom Gardner

Damn! From the headline I thought you were talking about Barack Obama! :-)

Jim

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Jim Chandler

It's a pity they didn't have a jpeg of it, so we could all see how black it is.

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Jordan

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