Been looking at the # of companies that have invested in battery makers and the talk of a company supposedly selling electric cars in israel in large numbers. It looks like there's going to be electric cars on the road faster than I thought they were going to be. How do you think governments that rely on fuel taxes are going to tax electric cars to make up for the shortfall. Just curious... Pat
They will tax per mile traveled, or km as the case may be. The GPS device in each car will be the tattletale for the govt.
I trust they will find a way. New taxes on car parts or electricity.
They'll probably have a "road tax". That is, you'll pay a certain amount per year for so many miles. Go over that and they hit you with a penalty. You know the government isn't going to let ANY possible tax slide by.
Jim
"Jim Chandler" wrote: They'll probably have a "road tax". That is, you'll pay a certain
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ Cars have odometers. It wouldn't be difficult to calculate a tax based on miles driven. Another possibility would be to build it into the electric meter where the car is charged. They already have plans to use time-of-use meters, with preferential rates to encourage battgery charging during off-peak hours. ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ You know the government isn't going to let ANY possible tax
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ You make it sound so ONIMOUS. Currently, gas taxes pay for the roads. If the number of electric cars becomes significant, it is perfectly logical to shift some of the cost to them. What would YOU suggest?
I wonder how long it will be before we have a human rights case involving these so called "smart meters" in that they give unfair advantage to people living a "graveyard shift".
Gerry :-)} London, Canada
Electricity isn't free, or untaxed. The fuel used to make electricity for the car is taxed. Don't worry too much about this. If everyone starts using electric cars, there won't be enough electricity left for lighting. Oh! wait; we can burn all the surplus gasoline for lighting and heat.
Bob (gimme a break) Swinney
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Tollroads. there are trying to turn all the existing freeways in the DFW area into tollroads, plus the new ones being built.
I don't know what state you're in but if you think that gasoline taxes pay for the roads, you're sadly mistaken. They are SUPPOSED to do so but the politicians have a propensity for using them for other things, at least in Californicate.
I said that government isn't going to miss an opportunity to tax anything they can. Do you disagree. Granted things have to be paid for but the constant tax, tax, tax of government, both parties, is becoming a bit wearing, would you not agree?
What would I suggest? I would suggest that governments, from City Hall to the White House start cutting some of the spending that they are doing. EVERY governments entity has some useless spending somewhere. How about lowering the cost of "management" for starters. Cut the perks that these political buffoons seem to think they are worthy of and deserve just because they were elected.
Jim
IIRC when Diesel cars came out New Hampshire had the options of a fixed weight-based fee added to the registration or a mileage tax. I never had one but the Rabbit's fixed fee was quite low.
Looks like I'll have to build a wind generator to charge my electric car. ;-)
I pay taxes now and the roads aren't in that great a shape.
Ya, right on Jim.
Even right now, most if not all states have "road use" taxes. If you buy retail motor fuel, the tax is built in. If you have a vehicle that is powered by some other fuel (experimental liquids, electric, 55-Gal drums of Diesel, or your own pump in the back yard) you are supposed to pay road use tax by the mile. You can get hit with big fines if you are intentionally avoiding the taxes. This has all been in place for many years.
Jon
Well said, Jon.
I met a guy while on vacation in Florida a few years back. I made my own biodiesel for a year, so we were comparing notes. He had a small moving company, and was bragging he hadn't bought any diesel in 9 months. We asked about paying road taxes, and he said, that's the beauty, I'm not buying fuel, so I don't have to. We spent a few minutes explaining that a trucking company that didn't buy fuel or contribute in any way would be discovered.
I get what you are saying but I think you have it turned around. The day shifters get to charge at night, the turd shifters charge at the more expensive time of day.
WEs
Yikes! An individual would just be required to pay the taxes, and could lose his license plates if he didn't. I'd expect a commercial mover would get raked over the coals if he never went out of state, and might wind up in the federal pen if he was moving stuff interstate. Well, unless he carried barrels in the back of the trucks I guess he would NOT be doing interstate transport on biodiesel.
Jon
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