Things are sure different in various parts of the country. I found a O2 cylinder at a fle market. It had the name of a defunct gas company on it. I called my supplier and asked if I could use it. "Sure, they are no longer in business". I bought it for $5.00. My supplier converted it to CO2 and I've been using it for years.
I rented a cylinder argon-CO2. I later told my supplier I wanted to buy it. I paid the money. I still have the cylinder.
This is New Mexico
John
As an aside to this thread:
This is a good example of having a local dealer and having a good rapport with.
It helps to open an account, no matter what level of purchases you have. It can get you better pricing. MOST IMPORTANTLY, it makes a huge difference when something comes into question like this. They are not going to do something that is illegal or not within the rules, but there is always wiggle room in almost all situations.
Attitude, rapport, and patronage have a lot to do with times when you need a friend.
This also comes into play when asking for professional advice, service information, and where the fish are biting. Get to know them, and chat with them while shopping and spending.
Find a good shop. Do business there. Realize that they are there to make money, and realize YES, you can get it cheaper on ebay, but ebay won't help you if you have a problem with a cylinder. I have had cylinders leak, I took them back, and they gave me a full cylinder, no charge, no questions asked, thank you very much.
And sometimes, like the doctor, they won't tell you what you want to hear. But, they'll give you the straight short answer.
Steve
I don't think that's across the board, Eric. While the supply house I used to frequent had a series of sizes, rental or personally owned bottles were the same size in all cases. As long as they knew the customer, they didn't really take much care in which bottle was exchanged, secure in the knowledge that the bottle was not misappropriated. Bottom line----size was not a distinction between rented or customer owned bottles. That firm was purchased by Airgas, so, assuming it is still in business, flies that flag now. Dunno if they are or are not, I've been gone for more than ten years.
Harold
"Jworman" wrote
Please see my post today regarding dealing with local suppliers.
Steve
They will likely be exchanged at next fill. Martin
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Dave Ly>>Guys Tank Law is not a joke.
a guy i used to know who was into making replica armour for play acting and some real use was always chasing after the bottoms of oxy/argon bottles. he said they were the perfect shape for beating out helmets... maybe they could be used for shaping other things? be sure to leave the valve completely open if you are going to cut it.
Shaun
Grant- We rented the tanks to clients. That's the point- we were the gas supplier (officially, a "Drug Repacker") and renting agent. The 'tanks from other companies' were not privately owned- they were _rental_ tanks from other companies- not unlike the OP's situation.
Fine- believe what you want to. I worked with high pressure gas cylinders for a living and faced severe penalties and fines if I violated the law.
-Carl
Nope, my supplier delivers to my door. They don't have multiple "styles" of tanks on the truck.
Whatever the DOT regulations are, they are pretty much irrelevant for the individual. The only thing that matters is what your local guy DOES. If something is DOT permitted, but he doesn't do it, do you think that you'll convince him with DOT references? Likewise, if something is prohibited by DOT, but he does it, it's not your problem. It's probably to your advantage.
The bottom line for the individual is: ask your supplier! Wait, make that: ask a couple of suppliers. Ask RCM and you'll start a pissing contest 8-)
Bob
Greetings Harold, Well, I just called Central and guess what? They said that there are indeed some sizes that are both rented and sold and that there some sizes that are only rented. I probably misunderstood when I was buying certain cylinders. I was told that the sizes I was buying, new and used, were only owner cylinders. There were of course certain sizes that were only offered as rentals. So I suppose I just thought that there was no overlap. Thanks for the correction. Eric
I'm sorry, you've broken UseNet rules. A mistake cannot be found, and corrected. You must fight it to the end, never admitting that you're wrong!
Chuckle!
Some of us are just common, every day morons that don't need to win a point, right or wrong.
I'll take the truth anytime, even if it leaves me with egg on my face. That usually comes off with my Saturday evening washtub bath. :-)
Harold
Indeed. Tell em you want a refill, not an exchange
Gunner
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