i would like to create a pedestal/legs for my dining room table out of
steel angles. the ones that i pick up at home depot tend to be
blue/black, and i would therefore like to sand them down to create a
matte metalic finish.
am i correct in assuming i can do this by sanding? what would be the
best method for such a project?
thanks.
The blue/black you are refering to is mill scale. Fairly nasty stuff,
sometimes it just flakes off, other times it hangs on in the face of a
grinder. In order to get the entire piece down to shiny steel, you will
need a power sander. You can use a flap wheel in a high speed drill or a
4" sanding disk mounted in an angle grinder.
To get a pure matte finish you need to have it sandblasted. A small
local shop might do them for you for $25 or a case of beer.
Keep in mind that as soon as you get down down bare metal they will
RUST. For furniture you can spray with a clear laquer or Krylon spray
but any chips will RUST. Commercial products tend to have some sort of
plating: zinc, chrome, etc.
kenny wrote:
Best method is acid dipping. Get a gallon or two of muriatic acid at Home Depot
and use a baby's swimming pool or other large plastic tub. Also buy a large box
of baking soda (don't know if HD carries this but your supermarket will.) Put in
enough water to cover your steel adequately, and then put on a face shield and
rubber gloves and slowly pour the contents of one gallon jug into the water.
Cover it with old plywood to keep the kids & animals out, and leave it
overnight. In the morning take an old pair of pliers or long tongs if you have
'em, again put on the face shield & rubber gloves, and lay out a piece of old
plywood next to your acid tank. Then get the garden hose running and take one
piece at a time out of the dip and stand it up on the old plywood and wash it
thoroughly with the garden hose. Wear old clothes you don't mind getting a few
holes in. Then, when you're done with the acid dip, slowly stir in the entire
contents of the baking soda box. Hopefully by the end of the box it will stop
foaming. If you have a pH meter for testing garden soil you can precisely
neutralize it. You can also use lye to neutralize if you know what you're doing
and have some to get rid of. The neutralized dip, now a solution of ferric
chloride, salt, and some complex chloride, can just go a bucket at a time into
your shop sink and into the sewer system. It's not a good idea to dump it into
the street drains unless they also go through a wastewater treatment plant.
Or you can just take them to be "pickled and oiled" for a few bucks, or pay huge
dough to have them sandblasted.
GWE
Or my favorite: a flap disc in an angle grinder. It's much easier to
get a smooth finish with a flap disc than with a sanding disc, IMO,
and it handles curved areas better as well.
Depending on how tenacious the scale is, you may be able to knock it
off with a wire brush in an angle grinder, which has the advantage of
not leaving sanding marks. (If you take this approach, be sure to wear
a full face shield with safety glasses, gloves, and a heavy shirt.
Otherwise you will become a human pin cushion from the wires thrown
off of the brush. They have enough velocity to penetrate exposed
skin.)
Or check with a local steel supplier to see if they carry the angle
you want in a "pickled and oiled" or "cold rolled" variety. Those
already have the scale removed.
You can also get a pretty close approximation to a matte finish with a
random orbit sander, going up to maybe a 220 grit. This will give you
a slightly different look than a sand-blasted finish, but the
light-scattering properties are similar.
First of all, get cold formed ones. The hot formed (black) ones are a
maior PITA to get them shiny. Second, it you want to have it look like
sanded in one direction, think about it another time. It is a lot of
work, especially in the corners. If you want it sanded and a bit funky
(irregular), do it with a flap wheel, that's much quicker.
Be prepared to spend hours with that job. Best is to have a stationary
belt sander, sand the tubes, _then_ weld them and go over the welds. Use
anti splatter spray while welding to reduce cleanup work.
Nick
How about one of those long, thin tubs made for wallpaper? If you
can find one long enough, you won't need as much acid, and it'll be
easier to clean up afterwards.
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For a one time use (with a lot of care) you can use a cardboard
box. Line it with one of the cheap plastic dropcloths and soak
away. You can even cut and tape the box to size.
Unka George
(George McDuffee)
...and at the end of the fight is a tombstone white
with the name of the late deceased, and
the epitaph drear:
?A Fool lies here, who tried to hustle the East.?
Rudyard Kipling The Naulahka, ch. 5, heading (1892).
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