Sealed (really sealed) run capacitors?

Aug 05, 2010 38 Replies

I bought this

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it is in the UK, so could take a while to get here. For the next two weeks, I will put in a regular run cap and will just be careful.

Cylindrical, mounts in a clip on the outside of the pump.

I will take it apart tonight.

i

Ignoramus16841 fired this volley in news:zqadncVkTIRKesfRnZ2dnUVZ snipped-for-privacy@giganews.com:

Iggy, that style is commonly available in the US from ordinary electric supplies. It's sometimes referred to as a "lighting capacitor". Maybe that's because they're used more in arc lamp service than in motors.

LLoyd

"Lloyd E. Sponenburgh" fired this volley in news:Xns9DCB88A7A1A84lloydspmindspringcom@216.168.3.70:

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Model Number: 10.0/280-2

10uf, 280V dry film capacitor for sodium vapor lighting fixtures.

LLoyd

Do you know of a local place that sells them? My local HVAC house would not even talk to you unless you have a van and a ladder on top of it.

i

Ignoramus16841 fired this volley in news:RdSdnSHMtcWPZcfRnZ2dnUVZ snipped-for-privacy@giganews.com:

Graybar carries the GE line of lighting capacitors.

Grainger may, but their online catalog is impossible, and their paper one has no listings for anything but full ballast/capacitor "kits" for HPS fixtures.

LLoyd

Their online catalog is an ungodly mess, that's why I never shop there.

i

Ugh. So, the cap is electrically connected to the motor by some contacts that are held together by whatever mounts it mechanically? First, I'd check it with the Ohms scale on a DVM, then charge the cap with the diode test on a DVM and see if it holds charge for any time. It should show low resistance first, then charge up and eventually show a very high resistance on the Ohms scale. If not, it is shot.

If you can't find an exact replacement, you may have to solder wires and use a standard cap with QC terminals.

Jon

This is a RUN cap, oil-filled paper, not an electrolytic.

Jon

No, the cap is held on the motor with a clip, having nothing to do with conduction, but the two conductor cable going from it to the motor is sealed (no terminals).

I have some run caps, 20 something uF, I will connect two in series and try that as a temporary replacement.

Thanks Jon

Jon Elson fired this volley in news:mISdnfxvYL9Ul8bRnZ2dnUVZ snipped-for-privacy@giganews.com:

You don't read the group in threaded view, do you, Jon?

All this and more were dealt with in prior responses.

LLoyd

Jon Elson fired this volley in news:mISdnf9vYL- ZlsbRnZ2dnUVZ snipped-for-privacy@giganews.com:

Yes, Jon. That, also, was dealt with far (far!) earlier in the thread.

LLoyd

Well, put long wires on the motor end, clean the area with solvent and glop liberally with RTV to seal the connections against moisture. Then, mount the commodity cap in a safe location.

HVAC contractor supply outfits have these very cheap, but they may need you to show business identification before they will sell to you.

Jon

I ran into that a while ago, but then I remembered I had an EPA "green card" so I could buy Freon. That was all they needed to sell me a really BIG run cap for a central air compressor, for about $7.00. I was fully prepared to pay $50+ for such an item and was amazed at the low price. So, that $19 green card paid for itself that day!

Jon

Yep, a handy thing to have. I got my "universal" recently, haven't had a chance to use it yet.

I wonder why they would not sell that stuff to just anyone.

Anyway, turns out the pump was just stuck.

i

For some reason, "union mentality" permeates the HVAC world.

Ha! I was right :)

Chuckle...so was I.

Gunner

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