Strange SCR power supply (welder) issue

Jul 08, 2006 27 Replies

Your current sensor runs on +/- 15 volts, right? That implies an op amp somewhere in the loop. It may have a small offset that is causing a small (12 amp) current even when the input is 0 volts. You may be able to trim this offset to zero with a small pot to the output if there is enough source resistance. Or some additional resistors may be needed.

Can you get the current control to go slightly below 0 volts? Maybe take the low arm of the control one diode drop (or less) to the - 15 volt supply?

From your other posts, it sounds like you have eliminated anything that may be a defect or cause the smoke to get out in the near future.

I went to PCTI's web site to see if they had manuals or schematics posted but did not see any.

Guesses: There may be a small offset in the current sense circuit.

There may be a minimum width conduction period imposed by something in the board design.

For my nickel, 12 amps doesn't sound like a bad minimum current to me, I think living with it is a good choice.

Good Luck, Bob aka wanderingmetalhead.

I have some documents, but not very detailed.

Well, not according to my measurements. I measured output from the current sensor(with my Harbor Freight multimeter), it is a pretty accurate reflection of the actual current.

Yeah.

Yes. What I will soon do is, I will switch control of the SCR firing board to the microcontroller, and thus I could compensate for this to match actual current with desired current.

I had a problem of output current not being exactly proportional to potentiometer setting, and I think that it is related. More specifically, if I adjust my board so that at potentiometer setting of X, I get 50 A, then 2X does not give me 100A, but instead gives me

88A.

I am now convinced that the output function current I, as a function of potentiometer output X, is

I = kX + 12A

where k is a constant, and not

I = kX, as I would rather prefer.

But I can live with it.

i

right

I do not think that it is the case. It would be great if it was, and your suggestion makes a lot of sense, but the output from the current sensor is very proportional to current, no offset. I measured i with my harbor freight multimeter.

I think that maybe I could add a tiny bit of voltage to the current sensing input to the SCR firing controller?

i

Keep in mind that the SCR's are controlling the reactor and not the main transformer.

Yes, they are controlling the main rectifier, not the transformer.

i

That's fine instrument there. Don't question it.

It's not bad for the $3 I paid for it, but a 9 VDC battery reads 18.9 VAC one way and zero the other. Well, hey, the average is pretty close! No precision rectifier, no capacitor, just a single diode in series. But maybe you have the deluxe version?

Paul

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