Technical people in China

Just got back from Shanghai in China where I spent 3 weeks as part of my job building medical instruments. We were demonstrating a type of surgical implanter used in eye surgery. I noticed the Chinese professors working with us were quite amazed at how much respect I, as a simple technician/engineer, got from the medical staff on my team. The Chinese dont seem to have a culture of appreciation of practical technical skills in the engineering field. Academic staff have respect, but there is no in-between level of practical technicians who make it happen in the workshops. The next level down is low paid, no respect slave labour.

Their hospital had engineering technicians, but they were very poorly equiped, pretty unskilled and treated like garbage ( yelled at and made to work all hours for very low pay ). The Chinese staff were also amazed that I had a home workshop and spent a lot of time and money on it. To them, machine tools and engineering work is for dollar-a-day "low quality people" ( as they often refered to their army of ex-farmers trying to survive in the big cities ). I still think they lack inventivness.

Boy was I glad to get back home to Oz !

Dean.

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Dean
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I suspect the root cause is that there is little of the middle class in china and a huge amount of it in western cultures.

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Nick Hull

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Thomas Kendrick

Basically there is almost no formal education program, nor any recognition, for scientific technical associates.

Kammerling Onnes created an institute around the early

1900s for the training of technicians like that. There is strong reason to believe that much of the scientific progress made in germany around that time had to do with the availability of trained technicians. Skills such as glassblowing, electronics (for its time), vacuum technology, and the ever-popular precision metalworking, were taught there.

Right now where I work they have pretty much stopped hiring non-PhD technical workers. The crop that is working in the mill right now is mid to late 40s and time marches on. The model shop is much more advanced in seniority than that, many of them are retirees who were brought back as contract employees.

Sounds like a niche market in the making.

Jim

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jim rozen

A company I worked for partnered some machining in China. They sent the machine shop foreman over to help set up the production. They were just not getting the volume and he could see everyone in the plant had no hustle. He suggested to the management to pay piecework but they baulked. After the second visit he forced the issue. The third time he went back production was up and the plant was humming He found management would not change unless he left a specific list with them and demanded that the changes be made before he returned. A very static culture. The other thing to remember that it is a big country and each region has a different attitude towards change. This guy saw something like FIFTY ore trucks sitting idle at an open pit mine waiting for parts. Randy

technician/engineer,

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Randy Zimmerman

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Steve Monroe

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