How much will cost to build a microcontroller by experts?

Hypothetically, I am looking for a team to design a single board microprocessor to control a segway human transport, for example.
Reason for asking is that in case I can't solve a problem I need technical expertise. How much will these services cost me?
Thanks Ric
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If you mean a microcontroller based system, the rate I am accoustomed to is $200.00 per hour.

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Blueeyedpop wrote:

$200/hour? I'm in the wrong business!
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Well, I can always find cheaper, but I doubt I could find better .
Mike

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I'd been looking around for a good price but find that they seemed not to have time to answer emails. Maybe too busy on a project? Since you said $200/hr, I assume the site below charge the same or higher?
http://www.updesigns.com /
Ric

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Ricky Spartacus wrote:

And how do you price-shop?
I would *strongly* suggest finding somebody competent rather than somebody who's inexpensive. You'll save more in the long run.
Also, some people use a different email for usenet than they do for normal business. For example, I use my adelphia address which immediately fills up with spam as soon as I make a posting. I haven't read mail at this adress in afew years. -- D. Jay Newman http://enerd.ws/robots /
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Ricky Spartacus wrote:

I'm puzzled. What are your requirements?
You can probably use an exisiting microcontroller board with some interfacing and a lot of programming.
Once you get that working, you can optimize the hardware design if you need to.
Just a suggestion.
And I live in a college town, so I only ask $50 per hour. (Too much competition from college students who can do some programming.) -- D. Jay Newman
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People can modify an existing microcontroller, package and sell them? During the desingning process, who's in charge of making sure that the microcontroller won't cross another entity's patents right?
The requirements are as long as it's within the practical completion time and cost of business. I'm still waiting for an opportunity, but I like to be familiar with desingers ahead of schedule. Ric
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are you talking about custom specifications of the actual microcontroller, or a design that uses a specific microcontroller, or requires a certain functionality.
desiging an actuall microcontroller would be tremendously expensive.

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I meant designs that uses a specific microcontroller, or requires a certain functionality. For example to control certain medical devices such as blood glucos monitoring machine or blood presure or what have you. I'm looking into designing a system to operate or calculate gizmos, preferable something far reach of the FDA. Regarding patents, who consults the lawyers prior to manufacturing or prototyping? Ric

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Ricky Spartacus wrote:

You should have mentioned medical before this.
As an example, I would require full liability insurance costs and I would have to fully believe that this was a major improvement. I've already turned down one medical job because I figured the risk to my familly's financies wasn't worth the posssible improvement.
As a consultant, for a medical job I would require (in addition to my normal requirements): 1. The full cost of *complete* liability insurance. 2. The client would have to do all the patent searching. 3. The client would have to fully disclose all details to me. 4. A longer timeline to test the programming/device. 5. A plan from the client for how the device would be tested after prototyping.
In other words, I would have to know that what I was doing was for the public good and useful and worth the risk. -- D. Jay Newman http://enerd.ws/robots /
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And even then...
Many manufacturers don't ever cert. their products as being suitable for medical devices.
Mike

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Blueeyedpop wrote:

Ayup. Though some companies will sell you medically certified parts for a *large* markup. -- D. Jay Newman http://enerd.ws/robots /
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OK, now you're talking $200 an hour.
If you think it's a good idea to contact an internet newsgroup in order to figure out how to build medical devices, you should do a little more research.
Building almost any medical devide requires FDA approval, and in that process, you'll learn plenty about exactly how to do this over the course of the next 10 years and $10 Million or so.
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Or you can get me for 20 an hour. English law applies, plus I don't have any insurance so who's going to sue me?
You can get an even better deal from India, $200 an hour will get you an entire graduate reasearch team and you even get to keep the building when they finish.
Stop thinking so small :o)
best regards
Robin G Hewitt

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If you build a medical device, and sell it in the US, English law does not apply. US law does.
And if you think not having insurance protects you from a lawsuit. Whooeeee!!!!!
Kind of like not having automotive insurance protects you from having a car accident huh?
Now, I'm just teasing you, and I may be interested in hiring some programmers outside of the US for non medical projects, so don't get upset.
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Alan Kilian wrote:

Robin's tongue-and-cheeck aside, what you say here is true, but they have to sue in the United States for US laws to apply. For civil cases you can't be "extridited" to face trial. It would be different if Robin ever visited the US, or if some DA or attorney general decided to press criminal charges where extridition applied.
As for judgements, Robin's defense (defence in the UK...) could be no defense. It costs him nothing, and he doesn't even show up. The court would then make a summary judgement for X dollars. How will the prevailing party collect if Robin has no assets in the US? The only way to get anything out of Robin would be to sue him in English courts, and then English law applies, regardless of where the product is sold. And if the product is not sold in the UK, the UK courts would likely turn down the case, citing venue. Robin is very clever indeed!! <g>
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Hi Gordon
Just out of curiosity, it is fairly obvious that I would head for the border like a scalded cat the moment the merest smell of a subpoena reached my nose. But could they do anything to stop me over a civil matter?
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Robin G Hewitt
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Robin G Hewitt wrote:

You cannot be *forced* to appear in court in a civil case. They cannot put you in jail and set bond like in a criminal case. If you don't show up, judgement goes to the other party, and that party has the resonsibility to collect (it's not the job of the gobment to collect for them). However, from what I know of the situation, while you're on US soil any assets you have with you could conceivably be collectable once a judgement is made. That could include your ticket back and any cash, jewelry, fur coats, or exotic animals upon your person.
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[Zagan] I used to work for a US company that made a computerized periodontal probing device for measuring pocket depth and recession/hyperplasia (gum disease). Because we made a medical device the FDA was all over us forcing us to abide by FDA requirements. This included a whole list of procedures and records we had to keep to satisfy the FDA. If we didn't do this, the FDA had the power to shut us down.
I would assume that any medical device would be subject to similar requirements if marketed in the US, no matter what country the manufacturer was located. Typically, foreign products are marketed in the US by US distributors. My guess would be that the FDA would require certain procedures be followed to allow distribution in the US. Although the FDA has no direct control over foreign manufactures, they do have control over what is allowed to be marketed in the US.
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