calling all wisconsinites! new launch field comming soon!

hiya everybody!
well, after long emails and such with the county parks, FAA and Military ATC I was able to get a waiver for Wazee park.
Jul 10 12:00 to 5:00pm Wazee park, tailings pond. google is your friend.
while this weekend will be a demo launch, the guy in charge of the park used to fly estes stuff and is really interested in seeing what's come along the pipe since he was young. if we get the OK for this, we'll probably be using this site every other month (or more).
camping onsite casino & hotels nearby easy hwy. access "launch" area 3/4 mile diameter launch field (could be) 2x3 miles without obstructions, buildings, roads, etc.
civilian ATC guys I've worked with for a bit, and they have no problems with our launches. had a long chat with the military ATC and they said they would try to rearrange their schedules if needed (Gov. officials bending over backwards!?!)
lemme know what you guys think.I am a bit to excited to talk now. with the go-ahead on the waiver plus my plans to see space ship one at Oshkosh this month my brain is gonna melt
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I think the friendliness of Google is a poor excuse for not providing even a hint of where Wazee Park is.
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On Tue, 05 Jul 2005 21:01:19 GMT, "Steven P. McNicoll"

Maybe you can help everyone out and post a link or some directions.
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Shouldn't that be up to those putting on the launch?
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On Tue, 05 Jul 2005 21:43:19 GMT, "Steven P. McNicoll"

Traditionally yes. I've noticed that the directions to many launch sites suck so I always verify them before I go somewhere I'm not already familiar with. I figure most others do too so it wouldn't be so hard to share the info. Here's directions from where I am. Hope this helps.
Time    Mile    Instruction    For    Toward Summary: 1038.7 miles (2 days, 20 minutes) DAY 1 9:00 AM    0.0    Depart I-276 on Local road(s) (West)    0.1 mi     9:00 AM    0.1    Turn RIGHT (North) onto SR-611 [Easton Rd]    0.2 mi 9:01 AM    0.3    Turn RIGHT onto Ramp    0.3 mi    I-276 9:01 AM    0.6    Keep RIGHT to stay on Ramp    0.2 mi    I-276 / I-76 / I-476 / Harrisburg / Allentown / West Exits 26 - 1 / North Exits 31 - 39 9:02 AM    0.8    *Toll road* Merge onto I-276 [Pennsylvania Tpke] 16.6 mi     9:17 AM    17.4    *Toll road* Merge onto I-76 [Pennsylvania Tpke]    165.6 mi     11:52 AM    182.9    *Toll road* Road name changes to I-70 [I-76] 36.3 mi     12:26 PM    219.3    Stay on I-70 [I-76] (West)    87 yds     12:26 PM    219.3    *Toll road* Stay on I-70 [I-76] (West)    50.0 mi     1:12 PM    269.3    *Toll road* At exit 75, road name changes to I-76 [Pennsylvania Tpke]    97.7 mi     2:22 PM    344.8    Entering Ohio         2:44 PM    367.0    *Toll road* At exit 15, road name changes to Ohio Tpke 0.5 mi     2:44 PM    367.5    *Toll road* Road name changes to I-80 [Ohio Tpke] 143.7 mi     5:00 PM    511.2    End of day         DAY 2         Check your departure time; the next stop is in a different time zone.         9:00 AM    511.2    *Toll road* Stay on I-80 [I-90]    11.6 mi     9:11 AM    522.8    Stay on I-80 [I-90] (North-West)    142 yds     9:11 AM    522.9    *Toll road* Stay on I-80 [I-90] (North-West)    198.7 mi     10:09 AM    585.8    Entering Indiana         12:17 PM    721.6    At exit 21, turn RIGHT onto Ramp    0.6 mi 12:18 PM    722.2    At exit I-94, keep RIGHT to stay on Ramp 0.1 mi     12:18 PM    722.3    At exit SR-51, take Ramp (LEFT) onto I-80 [I-94]    18.0 mi     12:32 PM    737.8    Entering Illinois         12:34 PM    740.3    *Toll road* Keep LEFT onto I-294 [I-80]    41.0 mi             Road Closed near Hazel Crest (April 15, 2005 - September 30, 2005)         1:12 PM    781.3    Turn RIGHT onto Ramp    0.9 mi    I-90 / N-W Tollway / Rockford 1:14 PM    782.2    *Toll road* Merge onto I-90 [Northwest Tollway]    60.0 mi     2:10 PM    842.2    *Toll road* Road name changes to I-39 [I-90]    17.5 mi     2:26 PM    859.7    Entering Wisconsin         2:26 PM    859.7    Stay on I-39 [I-90] (North)    78.9 mi     3:39 PM    938.6    At exit 108, road name changes to I-90 [I-94]    63.2 mi     4:38 PM    1001.8    Road name changes to I-94    23.7 mi             Check local time; this stop is in a different time zone.         5:00 PM    1025.4    End of day         DAY 3 9:00 AM    1025.4    Stay on I-94    6.9 mi     9:06 AM    1032.3    At exit 116, turn RIGHT onto Ramp    0.1 mi     9:06 AM    1032.5    Take Ramp (RIGHT) onto SR-54    0.9 mi     9:08 AM    1033.4    Bear RIGHT (East) onto Airport Rd    1.2 mi     9:10 AM    1034.5    Turn LEFT (East) onto (W) Bauer Rd    3.6 mi     9:18 AM    1038.1    Turn LEFT to stay on E Bauer Rd    0.2 mi     9:18 AM    1038.3    Turn LEFT to stay on E Bauer Rd    153 yds     9:19 AM    1038.4    Bear LEFT (North) onto Local road(s)    120 yds     9:19 AM    1038.4    Bear RIGHT (North) onto Local road(s)    153 yds     9:19 AM    1038.5    Bear LEFT (North-East) onto Local road(s)    0.1 mi 9:19 AM    1038.7    Turn RIGHT (East) onto Local road(s)    142 yds     9:20 AM    1038.7    Arrive near Winnebago Mission        
SUMMARY Driving distance: 1038.7 miles Trip duration: 2 days, 20 minutes Driving time: 16 hours, 20 minutes Cost: $79.12
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Hey, this puts you 5 miles from my house. Stop by for a tour of "Bob's rocket shop" :-)
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On 6 Jul 2005 13:15:47 -0500, kaplow snipped-for-privacy@encompasserve.org.TRABoD (Bob Kaplow) wrote:

I was just giving directions to the poor people that couldn't find it themselves. Thanks for the offer!!
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You know, one person (the person announcing the launch) posting some location or direction information and sharing with others really just makes sense. Why are you so adamant that hundreds of people looking on RMR should have to look it up themselves? Have you ever heard of efficiency?
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Of course, I realize that you will say "because the directions will all be different based on where you are coming from". Certainly true. But it really isn't rocket science to provide directions from a nearby major town or highway. Everyone can figure that part out easily.
Posting announcements is simple: Read the announcement as if you knew nothing about the topic, and think of the 3 immediate questions someone would have (remembering the diversity of your audience). Then answer them in the announcement, BEFORE you post it.
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We're not obsessing now are we?
Everyone come from the same place I do. If they don't, they just come here first and follow my directions. 8-)
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I'm not being adament and I agree with you I looked up the directions and posted them and I had no idea of where it was. I felt that whoever was complaning did so in a tactless way and could have cut the guy some slack and just asked for the directions. You want directions too? GIve me your address and I'll send to a map with directions. I don't use those crappy free online web services either.
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I live even further from Wisconsin than you do; I was just obsessing over a technicality!
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So why ask me to do it? I've never been there.
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On Wed, 06 Jul 2005 18:30:58 GMT, "Steven P. McNicoll"

Because you seem to care. I'm not going but I posted directions. Maybe the directions I posted will help someone.
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What gave you that idea?
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Steven P. McNicoll wrote:

Trolls normally do.
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www.maps.google.com
too easy.
Not that I am going to Wisconsin from Ontario....
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a
my apologies, as I taken a little off guard by the waiver coming in.
how should I direct people to a launch site? from what reference point should I use?
here is a satellite photo (off of google) http://maps.google.com/maps?q=black+river+falls,+wisconsin&llD.312325,-90.708103&spn=0.075505,0.106816&t=k&hl=en
the big circle is the launch site.
well, I suppose I could post directions from a couple of directions........
from Madison Take I-94 W, Go 120.7 miles and then Take EXIT 116 towards HWY 54 / BLACK RIVER FALLS/WISCONSIN RAPIDS Turn RIGHT onto HIGHWAY 54 Turn RIGHT onto N BROCKWAY RD Turn LEFT onto E BAUER RD and you should be at the park. ask the guy at the gate for a map and how to get to the tailings pond
from Minneapolis I-94 E towards I 94 / ST. PAUL 2 Go 140.7 miles Take EXIT 116 towards HWY 54 / BLACK RIVER FALLS/WISCONSIN RAPIDS Take EXIT 116 towards HWY 54 / BLACK RIVER FALLS/WISCONSIN RAPIDS Turn RIGHT onto HIGHWAY 54 Turn RIGHT onto N BROCKWAY RD Turn LEFT onto E BAUER RD and you should be at the park. ask the guy at the gate for a map and how to get to the tailings pond
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