temporary flight restriction

Just curious why you would need this if you have a waiver?

Perhaps he is making a presidential flight ?

What launch would qualify for a TFR?

One on an airport runway or under Mil Airspace ?

thats what got me too. but then I got to thinking. a waiver is only for aircraft that are directed by ATC. I would assume that the NOTAM is supposed to do the same job for general aviation and flyers who do not go through an ATC. but since he asked i wonder if I should be looking at getting a TFR in addtion to the waiver/notam

I am assuming probably something that might be a considerable nusiance, such as guided model rockets that might mistake the heat signature of an ultralight to coincide with the sun.

or possibly is we need a very specific launch window for an experiment and having a general aviation plane circling the area trying to figgure out what the NOTAM is all about fouling things up.

Holding a launch on an airport runway would require closing the airport anyway. A TFR in Special Use Airspace would serve no purpose as flight operations are already restricted.

What do you mean by that? ATC isn't routinely advised of waivers.

The applicable regulation is posted below. Is your launch on par with the events listed in subparagraph (a)?

§ 91.145 Management of aircraft operations in the vicinity of aerial demonstrations and major sporting events.

(a) The FAA will issue a Notice to Airmen (NOTAM) designating an area of airspace in which a temporary flight restriction applies when it determines that a temporary flight restriction is necessary to protect persons or property on the surface or in the air, to maintain air safety and efficiency, or to prevent the unsafe congestion of aircraft in the vicinity of an aerial demonstration or major sporting event. These demonstrations and events may include:

(1) United States Naval Flight Demonstration Team (Blue Angels);

(2) United States Air Force Air Demonstration Squadron (Thunderbirds);

(3) United States Army Parachute Team (Golden Knights);

(4) Summer/Winter Olympic Games;

(5) Annual Tournament of Roses Football Game;

(6) World Cup Soccer;

(7) Major League Baseball All-Star Game;

(8) World Series;

(9) Kodak Albuquerque International Balloon Fiesta;

(10) Sandia Classic Hang Gliding Competition;

(11) Indianapolis 500 Mile Race;

(12) Any other aerial demonstration or sporting event the FAA determines to need a temporary flight restriction in accordance with paragraph (b) of this section.

(b) In deciding whether a temporary flight restriction is necessary for an aerial demonstration or major sporting event not listed in paragraph (a) of this section, the FAA considers the following factors:

(1) Area where the event will be held.

(2) Effect flight restrictions will have on known aircraft operations.

(3) Any existing ATC airspace traffic management restrictions.

(4) Estimated duration of the event.

(5) Degree of public interest.

(6) Number of spectators.

(7) Provisions for spectator safety.

(8) Number and types of participating aircraft.

(9) Use of mixed high and low performance aircraft.

(10) Impact on non-participating aircraft.

(11) Weather minimums.

(12) Emergency procedures that will be in effect.

(c) A NOTAM issued under this section will state the name of the aerial demonstration or sporting event and specify the effective dates and times, the geographic features or coordinates, and any other restrictions or procedures governing flight operations in the designated airspace.

(d) When a NOTAM has been issued in accordance with this section, no person may operate an aircraft or device, or engage in any activity within the designated airspace area, except in accordance with the authorizations, terms, and conditions of the temporary flight restriction published in the NOTAM, unless otherwise authorized by:

(1) Air traffic control; or

(2) A Flight Standards Certificate of Waiver or Authorization issued for the demonstration or event.

(e) For the purpose of this section:

(1) Flight restricted airspace area for an aerial demonstration-The amount of airspace needed to protect persons and property on the surface or in the air, to maintain air safety and efficiency, or to prevent the unsafe congestion of aircraft will vary depending on the aerial demonstration and the factors listed in paragraph (b) of this section. The restricted airspace area will normally be limited to a 5 nautical mile radius from the center of the demonstration and an altitude 17000 mean sea level (for high performance aircraft) or 13000 feet above the surface (for certain parachute operations), but will be no greater than the minimum airspace necessary for the management of aircraft operations in the vicinity of the specified area.

(2) Flight restricted area for a major sporting event-The amount of airspace needed to protect persons and property on the surface or in the air, to maintain air safety and efficiency, or to prevent the unsafe congestion of aircraft will vary depending on the size of the event and the factors listed in paragraph (b) of this section. The restricted airspace will normally be limited to a 3 nautical mile radius from the center of the event and 2500 feet above the surface but will not be greater than the minimum airspace necessary for the management of aircraft operations in the vicinity of the specified area.

(f) A NOTAM issued under this section will be issued at least 30 days in advance of an aerial demonstration or a major sporting event, unless the FAA finds good cause for a shorter period and explains this in the NOTAM.

(g) When warranted, the FAA Administrator may exclude the following flights from the provisions of this section:

(1) Essential military.

(2) Medical and rescue.

(3) Presidential and Vice Presidential.

(4) Visiting heads of state.

(5) Law enforcement and security.

(6) Public health and welfare.

[Doc. No. FAA-2000-8274, 66 FR 47378, Sept. 11, 2001]

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You're talking about something that's a potential hazard to aerial navigation. Why would the FAA approve that?

A waiver does not restrict aircraft from the launch area. It merely permits you to fly rockets larger than the regs allow. That's why it's called a "waiver" -- they are waiving the prohibition on large rockets.

Not necessarily. NSL 2004 was held on the end of the main runway at Hearne, TX. That airport is used regularly by several Houston area clubs. The field is M capable. AFAIK they have no TFR.

Surely you're not going to tell me aircraft continued to use the runway during the launch.

Don't you know the answer?

They got a brand name codified!!

False.

VFR

Yes, they did. Of course we suspended operations while the runway was occupied and when aircraft were in the area. Standard operating procedure, right?

Hearne is a municipal airport with a 4500 foot paved runway and about

2200 feet of grass to the south (where we flew) and 1000 feet to the north. It isn't a real busy airport (~ 110 flights per week). Most aircraft using the airport only required half of the paved runway.

The airport is also used by one or more RC clubs, sometimes simultaneously with rocket launches. Hearne is a great place. The city likes rocket people.

Really? Do you know what provisions were made for clearing the runway in the event an airplane wished to use it?

What does that have to do with it?

The TOWER was in real time contact with the pilots and the rocket RSO by radio.

Also rules of rocket flight preceeded the event. "Watch for aircraft".

Jerry

Hearne Municipal Airport does not have a control tower. It's an uncontrolled airport in uncontrolled aircpace, the floor of controlled airspace is 1200 feet above ground level. The Common Traffic Advisory Frequency is 122.9 but aircraft are not required to use it or even to have radios. The RSO wouldn't necessarily know of aircraft operations until he could hear or see the aircraft.

Good idea. How long would it take to clear the runway? What was the plan if an airplane decided to spend an hour or two doing touch and goes?