CNN Headline News Today- ATF Vs. Rocketry

BTW, 43, and 44 on my CTV are CNN, and CNN 'Headline News' respective.They are diffrent, and can't say which one had the actual broadcast for sure. Someone can clarify I'm soon I'll bet. Sorry 'bout that.

It is CNN, Headline News Channel and I recorded it. I'll post the wmv file link in the morning after work tonight if someone wants it for the TRA/NAR, or just for their personal viewing.

yes please do post...thanks shockie B)

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Will do. Got to hit the rack, but will load it up by the morning after work tonight.

Anyone with cable can watch the story every hour on the hour though I'd bet on CNN Headline News.

If nothing, it's amazing how good CNN cameras can zoom in and make B and C engines flames look sweet!

This should be in the FAQ.

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Derf

Sorry 'bout that.

Thanks for that.

Report was pretty crappy (as expected of TV news). Almost every product, model, launch shown was an Estes / black powder model rocket. No mention of APCP, or the term "High Power Rocket".

-Fred Shecter NAR 20117

Nope.

It is never, never, never.

UNLESS you are a member of either NAR or TRA. 2500 screaming whiners are the national exception. Thank god TRA and NAR shrunk their influence from 20,000 to 2500!!!

Jerry

Prove it, Big Fine. Let's see you openly selling reloads without ATF permits.

But wasn't that the point Fred? Every rocket, even an Estes rocket will go AWAY with regulation?

I'm going to club you with a 'get-a-clue' club and ask you to just be happy. Even when Jerry agrees.

Geez.

Nope. That is not the point. You have been led down the panic-path.

It could affect every APCP rocket motor or reload kit eventually, but not Black Powder under 62.5 grams.

If they try to regulate regular Model Rocket motors, they will fail so badly and so publicly that their careers will be over. They will hit a hornets nest full of school teachers, scouts (girl/boy/etc.) , indian guides, TARC participants, teachers and mentors, CAP, and millions of regular people.

i saw what happened when they made a simple mistake in proposed CSFM regulations that would have drastically affected Model Rockets. Folks drove from all over the State to attend the hearings and politely and clearly communicate their displeasure. The folks were alerted by the nice folks at Estes, who have quite a database of educators and youth group leaders. This was long before Quest or Apogee or the others existed.

-Fred Shecter NAR 20117

I disagree. They have no clue, but made a point you miss even.

When asked" Do I look like a Terrorist" she launched a Estes rocket, and that summed it all up. Then they said those same Estes rockets were what will be not toys, but 'terror tools' according to the government.

I taped it off of CNN. I took the time to go from taping it on VHS, copying it to a Sony Digicam, then to a DV USB record in Adobe Premire on a computer, modded it more for people that only have dial up, and then load it to a website so you could see it. Believe me, I saw the CNN session. About

I'll spell it out. If you regulate your "High Power" your hobby goes away. That's what they are saying. Because the Estes ground level grass route suppliers of "High Power" go away as well.

Hello?

There is noway you can discount the worth of this CNN segment. You'll try cuz you pry hate Jerry because he might agreee, but your way off.

They ARE tring to regulate your Alpha 3, don't you get it?

displeasure. The folks were

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Black powder motors will be the least affected. As Fred points out, the wrath of the soccer-moms is something even the BATFE does not want to face. Oddly, the 50 lb limit for use in antique or replica devices might actually drive HPR back toward Congreve rammed powder designs, yuck. Twenty pounds of ballistically recovered cast iron on a stick is not the safest thing in the world.