On my L1 cert launch one of these systems was used. As I remember, it consisted of greyish box which had a small antenna extending from the top and a small remote resembling those used to remotely unlock your car doors. It required an external 12v source. On the top were the words PRO LAUNCH. Thats all I remember.
Are these still being produced ? Where can I get one ?
Thanks, Bill
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Jim
Sorry 'bout that but the BATFE shut them down, can't be selling remote control explosive detonators to the public....fer christ sakes...
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Joel. Corwith
Nope. Distance wasn't the greatest and the Feds didn't like the alternative use. They weren't much happier with the extended range version either. You can buy the remote components and make your own though.
Joel. phx
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Bill Botook
Ahhhh.....i see. That sucks. And its stupid. OMG, they arent going to start regulating RC transmitters are they ?!?!
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JDcluster
Not to mention garage door openers as well.
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Joel. Corwith
Nor are they going to prevent you from installing remote entry on your car. Sorry, you're just too dangerous if you want to use it for rockets.
Joel. phx
Hope you don't have an un-registered garage door operator for heaven sakes.
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Phil Stein
Damn I have to go back tp using my cell phone again!!!
(just kidding)
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bit eimer
Is this serious? How can the BATFE shut them down? On what authority?
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Bob Kaplow
EXACTLY what I was going to ask.
We really do need that constitutional ammendment that prohibits the government from regulating prefectly legal activities, items, etc. jsut because of a possible misuse. I'd suspect that the NRA would champion this cause all the way, and we could ride on their coattails.
Bob Kaplow NAR # 18L TRA # "Impeach the TRA BoD" >>> To reply, remove the TRABoD!
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Joel Corwith
I'm reminded of my Export Regulations lecture at work. HP(Been a while, but I'm pretty sure it was them) was going to export software which included encryption software. Strictly 'by the book', they purchased the software from out of the country so they weren't 'exporting' it. The agency said that was legal, but they would threaten vendors and customers with increased IRS scrutiny if they chose that course of action.
How much hassle are you willing to put up with for a business which isn't exactly a growth industry.
Joel. phx
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Jerry Irvine
Lord knows NAR refuses.
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Paul Stevens
Just FYI,
I just looked at the Linear Corp site
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and the site listed by Arnold, shows the old low power units they first used. Heard it had some serious range issues as well. The unit I got from Mike has the mondo Extended Range high power units. 12 Watts TX output! We line-of-site tested ours and got 3+ miles!! According to the Linear site the cheaper Linear units speced only to go 1500 ft. and you know that's on a good day with the unit 4 feet in the air!. Not a N motor unit!
Mine's a monster and has never failed! Sorry to see he's not making them any more. Based on the major construction on my unit and the stupid costs of the parts, I don't know how he could afford to sell them for the price anyway!
"Fly, Baby, Fly"!
Paul
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Joel Corwith
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Mike Luna
Hi all!
Man, there's a lot of stuff going on in this thread!
Here's the facts man!
I did receive a call from a unnamed agency inquiring if I was producing a long range ignition device. I explained to them what use it was for and that I was using off the shelf components and that was the end of the conversation. I also informed them I had already stopped making the units for resale. No direct insinuation of action was made at any point but the conversation did make me feel a little bit above the radar for my liking. It was a mute point as no more were being made or sold at this point.
These were incredibly well built and reliable systems but I was making very little money on the systems and working 6 - 7 plus hours in my garage in the middle of summer in AZ on each unit. This really helped me decide this was a pain in the A** endevor and is why I stopped making the units except for friends. The long range units I used in the ProLaunch 2 line were the Linear Corp XR-4 and XT-4 tran and rec pair. The transmitter sent out a 10 - 12 watt signal and being a pulse coded signal in the 27 MHz range does not require a FCC license.
The 0.5 watt Linear DXSR-1508 8 channel low power units were used in the initial version of the ProLaunch which sold for $225.00. This transmitter and receiver pair are too low power for reliable big away pad use but was fine for close up stuff (400 or less ft). The unit must to be elevated to cure ground plane interference.
That's the facts and nothing but the facts!
Thanks! Mike Luna
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Joel Corwith
Not -THE LIST- !!!
I've got stuff in paint and several still ready from the scout launch. Dahll gall wind. I collected 2 lbs of sand from INSIDE the tent!! The scouts really got a kick out of the Little Johnny I had on display, I'll put that up. If I have all the kids, I won't fly too much.
Joel. phx
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Bill Botook
Mike,
Certainly your products were and are still not illegal in any respect. I would like to buy one of them. Do they exist in any form ? New or used ? Of course I could use the transmitter I use to fly my giant-scale (15-50lb) RC aircraft with, a Futaba 9C. Although it would be extremely reliable and secure (PCM) it would also be cumbersome and just wouldnt be the "right tool for the job". I would rather have one of your units. Please email me if one becomes available. Thanks.
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Arnold Roquerre
There are two transmitter types. One is short range and the other is long range. I think the price difference between the two is $10. I haven't checked the site out for some time, but I know they had a long range unit that could transmit miles and was still FCC Part 15 compliant.
It is so easy to make a remote control launch system that it would really be a serious waste of federal and state money to control.
Airplane rc units, laser tag toys, a modified clap on clap off unit, garage door openers, cell phones, old wireless home phones all can be used. It really is a waste of time to attempt any control on remote control devices. They are simply to ubiquitous to monitor.
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