Stability question.

What would happen if the rocket (a LOC Stovi) was flown with too much weight (about 8oz.) in the nose? What is the flight profile of a rocket with excessive noseweight?

Rocketeer

Reply to
paul
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Such a roket is said to be over-stable and would be expected to weathecock more, fly in light winds only till you get to know it.

H
Reply to
Halam Rose

I should have asked, have you put the weght in to correct the CofG, or is the CofG now well forward of the specification?

Check the CofG, if its forward of the spec then your overstable which is not a major problem so long as your aware of the wathercocking potential.

If you had to add excessive weight to move the CoG to the correct place then you need to check you have plenty of power to lift it - thrust greather than

5 times weight is the general rule of thumb. H
Reply to
Halam Rose

I have a few different nose cones that are interchangeable, all with different nose weights epoxyed in.

Here is the the Stovis last flight profile, loaded with 6 Estes E9's and a core motor of a AeroTech 24mm reload of a F.

The rocket left the pad, then flipped end over end into the dirt of Maddox Dairy farm. What went wrong here?

Reply to
paul

Did all of the motors light? Mixing APCP and BP motors is not a recommended clustering method. The BP motors tend to ignite before the APCP motor. In fact almost all of the time the APCP motor will not ignite at all because the ignitor is pulled out of the motor when the rocket starts to move under the thrust of the BP motors.

So assuming that all 6 of the E motors lit but the F did not you would have a launch profile of only a 162 N/S H54. That would be marginal with a Stovi with an extra 6oz. of weight in the nose cone. I'd suggest that the low initial thrust did not get the rocket moving fast enough to fully stabilize itself before it left the rod/rail. If so a slight gust of wind would be all that was necessary to destablize the rocket resulting in the flight that you describe.

Ken Holloway

Reply to
Cagey

Cut the nose cone so that you can add and remove weight. You can stuff some dry (not dried up) mud in there and good quality duct tape will hold it in.

Phil

Reply to
Phil Stein

If the rocket yaws more than about 15 degrees for any reason (like not all engines lit) or if the wind is enough to give a yaw angle of more than 15 degrees as the rocket leaves the pad (this happens when the lift off speed is too low) then the fins will be stalled and will not produce the corrective force needed. The end over end tumble is what usually happens in that situation.

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Larry

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