F-4E Weasel killers

May 04, 2006 6 Replies

OK, not F-4Es that kill weasels, but the F-4Es that were used in a hunter/killer combination with F-4Gs...



I'm currently building a 52TFW F-4E. What was the operational armament fit of these aircraft?



The aircraft is fitted with TISEO, so I assume that it was capable of using Mavericks. Or was the fit more likely to be CBUs of some description?



I'd like to be able to fit a GBU-8 or GBU-15, but am I right in saying that these were only deployed operationally by F-15Es and F-111s? Besides, I would imagine something so big would be used against high-value targets, rather than SAM and radar sites.


Boy, it has been a long time, so my memory is not serving me well. I am trying to remember when HARM was introduced into service, compared to service period of F4E. Wasn't there a predecessor ARM prior to HARM? Can't remember name or details, though.

There was the AGM-45 Shrike and the Standard ARM. The 52 TFW deployed some F-4Gs to RAF Sculthorpe in 1984, so I went up to have a goosy. I was told that only the Weasels themselves carried ARMs and that the Standard had been removed from the inventory. I never thought to ask about the armament of the F-4Es.

As I recall, when I worked on these in '84-85 at George AFB the E carried mostly AIM 7's and AIM 9's. The E was the SAM target and the G was the killer. There were occasions, like when we went to Red Flag that we had Mavericks. I really think that it just depended on what kind of mission the E was fragged for that day. On the other had the G always had the Shrike and Standard Arms.

The SP F-4Es usually carried AGM-45 Shrikes and/or iron/cluster bombs. The USAF F-4E were not capable of carrying the AGM-88 HARM.

HTH

Thanks, JJ. That has confirmed my choice.

The model is almost complete - I just have to add the canopies. I eventually decided on a TGM-45 Shrike trainer on the port inboard pylon, with an empty TER on the stbd inboard.

Once again, this group has helped me immensely. Thanks to all who responded to my questions.

Enzo,

You're welcome. Your load-out sounds realistic to me.

Regards,

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