Dimensioning Pipe?

I recently completed drawings for a item that included some steel pipe for a pneumatic line. [About 30' of pipe, with about 25 fittings] I obtained dimensions for each of the fittings we needed, and dimensioned the length of pipe by indicating the distance between fittings. I ignored thread engagement, thinking that this is a variable I couldn't control. I was also thinking that the installation must, by nature, be custom fitted by the guy installing the pipe. One experienced person said that thread can be pretty variable, and the length of thread engagement will vary depending on how deep the maker cut the threads, and how worn the tool was.

At some point in the past, I saw a piping drawing that gave distances to intersections of pipe, ignoring the fittings. But, this doesn't seem any better than the method I used, except that it doesn't require me to know the real size of the fittings.

The item I drew is being built now, with the assumption that my dimensions are only a general guide, so each pipe is being cut to fit after prior pieces are already installed. I am evaluating if there might be a better way, especially in situations where I have a number of fittings close together and want to use standard size nipples. Perhaps I should assume a certain depth of thread engagement and give the total length of the pipe (including the thread)?

Any suggestions or industry standards?

Joe Dunfee

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Smiley
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Machinery's Handbook will give thread engagement distances which I recommend you use. Someone posted this link earlier this year in Eng Tips.

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haven't looked at it someone responded favorably. Here is another chart.
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Bruce Wirkkala

Bruce, thank you for that very useful information.(the charts and program providing very detailed sizes for most aspects of pipe) However, I know the thread engagement is still a variable parameter. I am curious how it is done among those who really know what they are doing. Most of the piping is done on our object, and it is not entirely straight.

Joe Dunfee

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Smiley

One thought would be to get a sampling of the sizes you are using and do actual assembly of nipples into fittings to measure the thread engagement. I think that threaded pipe joints are somewhat like sheetmetal, what works for one shop doesn't necessarily work for another. You will have to decide on the level of precision needed. What are the position tolerances that are viable in your application? I have done considerable piping design using 1/2" increments and when we wanted to be really precise, we went to 1/4" increments! :) One thing to keep in mind is that no plumber/assembler has used a torque wrench to assemble the system to my knowledge. You will always be at the mercy of the guy on the end of the pipe wrench. In my case, that was me, more often than I liked!

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Bruce Wirkkala

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