Dead group?

Jeff Stanton skriver:

There has now......

Klaus

I've noticed the same thing. Did everyone else take a group vacation? If so, I vehemently object to being left out :-).

When a bunch of nitpickers and potty mouths take to a group, it will quicklly decrease in traffic as those who do that stuff keep snidely denigrating the others as the only noes really on the group and they'll get tired of eeach other and eventually leve, when nobody wles comes on to ask questions for fear of being denigrated the same way. Maybe in a yer or so, the traffic will pick up agaaain. I'll note that this group 3 years ago would havee 40-60 threads a day and we are now down to less than 1.

-- Bob May

rmay at nethere.com http: slash /nav.to slash bobmay http: slash /bobmay dot astronomy.net

Sometimes, stuff does not happen. I very seldom ever find anything of value here. I come back every few months. I belong to other mrr groups and DCC groups that offer much more usable information.

r

Rich skriver:

Groups such as?

r.m.r is often filled with crap in discussions between 2 or 3 persons that deliberetly keeps misunderstanding each other or the "battle" between US, GB and Aussie just rolls.

It is wery boring in the long run and the reason why I didn't subscribed to the group in 6-7 months.

Klaus

"Klaus D. Mikkelsen" wrote in news: snipped-for-privacy@du.kan.finde.den:

Web based groups like those found on Yahoo!. The Digitrax group is quite busy and usually on topic all the time.

I tend to kill those threads when they get that far along. I think I've killfiled at least one of the 3 at least once.

Don't forget the rule of Usenet: If you don't like the topics being discussed, feel free to start one of your own.

Puckdropper

Usenet is slowly fading away -and that's true pretty much across the board- but that's simply because (A) Usenet was here first, and (B) since Usenet first evolved many other -and often more specialised and flexible- online venues have developed -and these rarely require their participants to use a newsreader with it's inherent limitations.

Most of the newer groups are moderated in one way or another, and that

*does* get rid of the pure trolls, but the brighter moderators also know that if they're constantly threatening to plonk all of the conflicting personalities on their group they'll probably chase away a bunch of their most creative posters, so verbal conflict -if not outright warfare- remains a fact of life on most online forums.

As evidence that moderating is not always an easy tightrope to walk,

*I* was a moderator for a motorcycle discussion board for a while, and as we grew we kept adding more volunteer moderators to spread the load around. One day I saw a post from one of our brand-new moderators that stated a "fact" that was really only his strongly-held (but mistaken) opinion, and I pointed that out; whereupon he -not recognising that I was a senior moderator and a founding member of the board- immediately tried to ban me from the group for disagreeing with him. The group's owner stepped in and chastised him moderately (ahem), but the new guy continued to threaten to toss out anyone who argued with him about anything, and we (the moderators and owner) eventually decided to ask him to leave.

Had said doofus been the group's owner, he would have eventually ended up owning a "group" composed only of himself and his two worshippers, so you can see that surpression of all disagreement is neither possible nor desirable.

Now: it would be nice if we lived in a world where everyone was polite to each other all of the time, online or off, fruitloop or sane, but a quick scan of the day's headlines will demonstrate that such a world is not in the offing for the forseeable future, so we'd best try to muddle through with what we've got.

If you don't care for the trolls, ignore them. If you have something useful to contribute, please do so. Usenet can still be -and frequently is- a useful venue for sharing information, but complaining that a gift doesn't meet your high standards won't magically cause any changes in Usenet.

All in all; the best thing you can do is try to abide by the old bromide that states, "Lord, give me the strength to change the things that I can, the forbearance to withstand the things I cannot, and the wisdom to tell the difference".

~Pete

Good advice. We should all learn to use filters and kill files. Makes Usenet a much friendlier place.

I'll post something to see if I can get a discussion going.

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I can recall around 10 years ago. There was Big John, , Peter King, Sherriff John, and numerous others. The group was very active and offered helpful advise and suggestions for newcomers and everyone else. A lot has changed over the years.

Bill Bill's Railroad Empire

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I can recall around 10 years ago. There was Big John, , Peter King, Sherriff John, and numerous others. The group was very active and offered helpful advise and suggestions for newcomers and everyone else. A lot has changed over the years.

Bill Bill's Railroad Empire

And then there was Froggy to inject good information with a bit of humor, always enjoyed Froggy and all the old gang.

Jim, still in the '50's on the CRI&P

I'd still like to go see that RDC with the dedication to Big John, but I doubt I'll ever make it that far east. If anyone does, and takes some pictures of the plaques, I'd like to see them.

I recall seeing a picture of it shortly after it was dedicated.

-- Ray

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There are many more on Yahoo, various scales, DCC, Spend a little time searching Yahoo Groups.

Search the 'Net for Model railroad forums, model railroad groups, etc. Do some homework.

Scroogle is a good search engine that does not track you like Google does.

r

O.S. Linux Mint 7 No Gates or Windows

Rich skriver:

Okay web based forums is not really my cup of tea.

Klaus

I can understand the feeling, BUT the Group's archives may be useful reading. YMMV

Chuck Davis

Charles Davis skriver:

Just like the r.m.r archive (aka. google groups).

Klaus

On 10/7/2009 12:41 PM Klaus D. Mikkelsen spake thus:

Actually, Google Group's archives are, like the rest of their ill-conceived piece-of-shit implementation of their Usenet spam portal, almost completely useless. Unlike the dearly departed Deja News that they replaced, one cannot search for old messages with any assurance that one fill find anything.

It's mainly a way for Google to kinda-sorta fool ignorant people into thinking that Usenet is somehow an undertaking of Google.

On the Yahoo groups, you can choose that posts be delivered as email. I subscribe to the Layout Construction, Early Rail, Small Layout Design, and Handlaid Track groups. I only visit the web forums when someone posts about a photo or track plan in the group files.

Make sure you delete private data afterwards because yahoo has what they call web beacons which they and other sites can access.