Vale of Rheidol railway question

"Wolf K." wrote

Pretty sure it's something like Rhy-doll.

John.

The latter is closest. But it's Welsh, not English, so the correct pronunciation requires you to roll the R slightly and the "dol" is closer to the way Americans would pronounce "doll" (slightly elongated "o") than the usual English pronunciation. And, of course, you need to say each syllable on a different note, the second higher than the first :-)

Mark

Strictly speaking Rh in Welsh is pronounced Hr so Rheidol should be Hrydol

John Firth

Cegidfa Y Trallwng Cymru

In message , John Firth writes

No it isn't. It us an unvoiced trilled r followed by an aspirated h.

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If you can roll your Rs you shouldn?t have too much trouble with RH. It?s just a breathy version of R, with more air but no voice ? the same difference as there is between Z and S. You may find it easier to think of it as HR. Start by saying a normal Welsh R and breathe out sharply through it so it sounds raspy. To continue the theme of ?pronouncing Welsh through imitating animal noises?, it?s the sound of a cat purring throatily. But if you can?t manage that breathiness, the good news is that much of the time, when it follows a vowel, RH separates into R and H, so that for example y rhai sounds like ?yr hai?.

I can roll my Is, so rolling my not-inconsiderable Rs should present no problem.

;-)

Can you cross your Is and dot your Ts?

I can, but crossing my Is makes driving a bit more difficult.

Sorry pressed wrong button sent reply straight to Jane when meant to go to group

I live in a road starting with Rh and its pronounced Hr round here in East Wales. Perhaps its been anglicised here on the borders.

John

I prefer to drink my T.

Me too, but it does make me P.

Cheers Richard

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Thanks, I'll take that as definitive.

Ys guys!

I get my massive club in both hands and bang my balls off mine.

"Brian Watson" wrote

Bloody golfers! Good walk spoilt! ;-)

John.

In message , John Turner writes

As opposed to rugby, which is a game played by gentlemen with peculiar-shaped balls.

Gentlemen????

There is saying to the effect that Rugby Union is played by gentlemen acting like hooligans, Association Football is played by hooligans acting like gentlemen, while Rugby League is played by hooligans acting like hooligans....

The story is that William Webb Ellis was playing football one day at Rugby School, and because his team was losing he picked up the ball and ran with it to put it in the goal.

Then he turned to the referee and said "I've scored, now what shall I do with it?".

And now you know why it is that shape.

I prefer a Canadian Club. What's more, last week I drank Canada Dry.