Re: Do not call- waaa,waaa,waaa

Jim,

You seem to not have a firm grasp of what is involved in spamming. My guess is that 99% of spammers do not sell or handle the products they tout. I believe that they are acting as independent agents for the actual product producers. An easy way to tell is place your cursor over the links they provide and you will usually see some kind of ID number or script in the URL. These people sew out a few million emails and disappear. Their ill gotten booty is mailed to them from the companies they advertise.

The only way to stop this is to go after the companies themselves. THEY have to maintain some kind of physical presense for stocking and shipping.

How long do you think it will take before someone figures out some back door method of using call centers in other countries to circumvent the new do-not-call laws?

You didn't have to help them Paul! There are on-line operations TODAY that use out of country call centers to deal with technical support issues on a

Of course not. However, there are much stronger moral implications involved in murder and drug dealing because they cause physical harm to others. The chickenboners are more likely to send out spam in defiance of the law because it does no physical harm.

That's because it's easy to find the perpetrators and prosecute them. Anyone with a computer and half a brain can write a fake spam message; it's just ASCII text. Phone records are kept on secure servers at the phone company, and I think HOW they're kept is regulated by the government. Makes for rock-solid evidence, and a slam-dunk prosecution. Email is kept on your personal computer, where it can be tampered with. All they need is that one small fact to create reasonable doubt.

No, I am trying to point out that a no-spam law will not stop spam. In fact, you'll be lucky if a no-spam law reduces the amount of spam you get.

Ah, you've finally hit on it. There are plenty of countries out there that will never have anti-spam laws, and will always have open relays. Send the spam from one of these countries, and thumb your nose at the so-called anti-spam law. That's how it'll work.

That's true - in fact, how many of them deliberately conceal the nature of their e-mail already in order to bypass filters you may have in place? The answer is "all of them". I get about ten e-mails a day offering me:

v1agra, a larger pen1s (why would I need a larger pen1s if I need v1agra to get up the one I have now?), lower rates on my "moortgage" (is that like a loan to buy a swamp?), and at least five emails, titled "asdopfui fpqeyry abaftytaq wypposedeled", which seem to imply I can make tons of money by sending out emails titled "aouiayqer adrklaflaqr schmnoopy fliddledinger" out to other people.

No, I don't see the "ADV" convention coming into play for a long, long time...

Dan.

"Paul McIntosh" wrote in news:bdt5vt$etf$ snipped-for-privacy@titan.btinternet.com:

That is what I was talking about. THEY authorized and paid for the spam.

"Bousch" wrote in news:yrJMa.118715$MJ5.48394@fed1read03:

Not true. So far, in NYS, the law has worked incredibly well.

Has worked great in TN too!

I use to get about 40-60 spams a day. What I did was get a new email from my ISP and then Only give my actual address to people I know. Then I got a Yahoo account for the occasional person that actually wants to contact me. Works gooder than anything else I've tried.