I would prefer to call the way I fly my small ariplanes DC "Direct Control" instead of CL. This would better describe that we control the plane by mechanical control. The same way as you would sit in plane and you get the same tactile feedback.
The German appellations are even much worse "Fesselflug" (something like tied flying) or "Kreissflug" (Circular Flying). Not very fine, isn't it.
Peter Soaring- (not RC) and CL-Pilot
I always used an EZ-just Hot Rock.
I used to fly tethered models in the 50s. No controls and single wire attached to a pole in the center. Used to have timed races.
The wickipedia says that "the speed record for tethered model aircraft is 186 miles per hour, set in the early 1950s." I gather that it is a pulse jet record.
Marty
"Paul McIntosh" wrote in message news:420a9cfe$0$35973$ snipped-for-privacy@ptn-nntp-reader04.plus.net...
I still have a pair of those Paul. The Red for 1/2 A and the Grey for everything else....need to spring for a 3 line set up one of these days.
I used the red for everything (was poor back then!)
"Paul McIntosh" wrote in message news:420b0eab$0$45366$ snipped-for-privacy@ptn-nntp-reader04.plus.net...
SNIP
I'm sure I've mentioned this before. IF you ever lose your mind and build a 1/4 A C/L plane for the backyard, DO NOT use a 1/2 oz. Fuel tank! Those dang Cox .020's run FOREVER on a half ounce of fuel! Only time EVER that a model had me dizzy after flying. Kids this is just friendly advice because I've BTDT dang near heaved all over the backyard.
"Keith Schiffner" wrote in news: snipped-for-privacy@vnet-inc.com:
That's why Perfect made those 1/6 and 1/8 ounce tanks. But I didn't have to worry about using such a small engine, the 15- mph Trade Winds in Hawaii made flying 1/4-A's impossible and
1/2-A's near impossible.Around here in the High Plains, I don't worry about flying them either because of the wind. Here they say, "April winds bring tumble weeds and dust."
- HPT
They DID? They DO? damn... Oh well it was all built on a whim with left over bits and pieces. Used the line drawings right off the old Top Flight 1/2 Hurricane.
15 mph? A little bit of wind...if I were flying when it's 10 mph and it kicked up to 15 I'd keep flying. 8^) Now that I'm in Montana I've got to relearn those skills. It really sucks when you are flying C/L and the winds start switching back and forht and gusty.I was here last April...snow, 70 mph.
"Keith Schiffner" wrote in news:pbWdnY snipped-for-privacy@vnet-inc.com:
They did. I haven't seen much Perfect stuff lately. I think I still have a tank or two hidden away somewhere.
The problem wasn't the 15 mph, it was the gusts to 30.
We get those kind of gusts around that time frame. When I was in Gallup, a couple times we had gusts to 90 mph. That's when some poor shmuck would be traveling at 65 mph past the Hogback Mountains near the town east exit where there is the road is elevated just past the pass through the Hogback. Right there is a windsock with a sign, "Dangerous Winds May Exist". He'd hit that and get clobbered with a gust of wind, dump his 5th wheel on its side in the median. Happened a couple times.
- HPT
"High Plains Thumper" SNIP
A couple of extra shims to push to the outside of the circle "helps" BUT it sure is a relief when it runs out of fuel.
Only ONE? We've got two with in a 1/2 mile of each other east of Browning! So far since we've had some gusts over 90...I've had a few 60 mph gust hit me in that area while traveling at speed. Moved from the upwind side of the lane to the down wind side, never crossed the dotted or solid line. Amazes me how many riders up here don't know how to ride in windy / gusty conditions.
"Keith Schiffner" wrote in news: snipped-for-privacy@vnet-inc.com:
Well, The road from Crownpoint NM to Thoreau, have seen at least one doublewide trailer half laying on its side.
If you live in the west, you learn to ride in wind or you don't ride at all.
- HPT
One would think it obvious to any native English speaker that it's a contraction of "control (by) line/s", (mono, dual or triple), which should be abundantly apparent to anyone familiar with the English idiom and comfortable with the name contraction of 'Pete' (sic). ;)
Long since accepted by convention worldwide as a term or word (viz: control-line) in its own right, in the US, colloquially it is more commonly referred to as "U-control". What make you of this conundrum? Logic or idiom? I can only surmise what Mr. Webster might have to say mirthfully on the matter. :)
Planes were also flown by whipping them around on a pole, which coul
get you kind of dizzy. Some folks also combined the whipping with (Contol line, U-control, Line Control, take you pick) method to ge better control. In the late 50s a model airplane club I belonged t had indoor tether races in which 020 planes flew around with a singl line attached to a bearing on a center pylon. You timed them b counting the beat of the sound, You couldn't see the model accuratel enough to time by eye. There is still a variant in which the model use electric motors with the power transmitted through the tethe lines. Most of the stuff I've seen written about electric tether come from England. The system designed by Oba StClair was written u sometime about the mid 80s, I think, in Model Builder magazine. Ther have also been a couple complex systems to let people fly control lin from outside the circle. never really caught on
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50+AirYears's Profile:My guess would be that "U-Control" was a copyrighted or trademarked term used to describe control line flying by Jim Walker.
Remember the U-Reely spool handles for control line flying?
Also, free flight was the first form of flying modeling. With that said, it would be easy to understand why control line would be considered a next logical step in the progression of descriptions.
TAS
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