The first person in the shop to get them is the guy that redraws them in 3D.
You don't understand modern manufacturing, obviously. The days of the file
and the scraper are gone. I realize that, living in the UK, high tech
methods are not nearly as common as some places but it would be in your best
interest to educate yourself on the processes available.
I am very interested in this thread, I draw shopfits where I work, and
normally draw the existng building in 2D.
Cabinets and the like that go in the shop are all drawn in 3D, but this was
primarily to give good perspective views for the client, who generally
couldn't picture a box from the 2D drawings. This has enabled me in turn to
produce working drawings for the lads on the shop floor from my oroiginal
drawings, as I now draw them as built, including part drawings.
This makes the specifier quite happy, as I involve him from the very
If there are any amendments, then I find them not that hard to do, but then
I may be the only person using Acad that finds the 3d environment quite
fluid and easy to use.
BTW, I also have a background in engineering, seven years spent programming
CNC milling machines, as well as the manual side, milling, turning, setting
autos, surface grinding, wleding arc & mig) site installations of
structural steel, and digging holes. Lots of holes.
I never really did any drawing back then, but it was here I used my first
cad program. Easymill from bridgeport, and that put me on the road to
learning Acad. I still go back every now and again to sort some littl
eproblem thay have, and they are still using the same version of Easymill,
on the same 286, with Windows 286 Plus. :)
I have never used 2005 so couldn't comment on it but if it's 3D tools you
want, switch to something other than AutoCAD. I once spend a few months were
I had to use AutoCAD, doing 3D. This, after using serious modelers for
years. I can't see why anyone would waste their time with it if 3D was a
serious part of their work. Autodesk has serious modeling software
available. Why would they bother developing modeling capabilities in
AutoCAD? Of course, there are the people that will say they can model
anything in AutoCAD. You can excavate a foundation with a tablespoon too but
would you? The last version of AC that I did any modeling with was 2002. It
was using ACIS 4 for it's modeling kernel. That was four or five version
obsolete. I bet they are still using it.
I have AutoCad 2000, ADT 3.3, 2005 and Vector Works.
I am LEAVING AutoCad. ADT 2005 is good, but the new lic. agreement is
ruinous. Vectorworks is 30% the price and 100%+ in capabilities, and you
don't have to buy whole seat for summer interns, which 2005 will require you
to do. Vectorwork's 3D capabilites are superior to AutoCad by far.
Vectorworks is alot closer to Revit.
I think the new lic. agreement is going to push alot of people over the
brink with their frustration with AutoCad, and rightfully so.
YOUR PAYING 3X FOR NO GOOD REASON IF YOUR USING AUTOCAD. Everything is
transferable between it and other programs(granted not with intelligence in
the blocks. But your Consultants don't use that stuff anyway) via dxf, and
dwg interpretation software(+/- $30) . The legacy arguement is also
falacious because you can export your current library into dxf. Actually
with Vector works I can just open dwg files as is - interpreter built-in to
SYONARA AUTODESK !
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