Job Search These days

I have for the first time tried Internet Job Search methods as opposed to the old ways of door to door visits after location shops from Yellow Pages and other local methods of finding machine shops. This is something totally new to me and I am rather overwhelmed. I find that I am not applying to companies but Head Hunters that want my blood. I start out thinking I might travel from shop to shop to sell myself and also evaluate the prospective employer leaving a trail of applications and resumes and after awhile go home and wait for calls. Applying on-line to agencies seems to be all you are doing now-a-days and I feel that there may not be any shops posting jobs. No web sites that post jobs and no other way but to apply directly to agencies that want to put me through a battery of tests that seem to be profiling or psychological exams. I looked at one contract that would have me signing away my rights to allow searches of my person, my car any of my personal affects like tool box and so on. In the first interview they asked questions like " have I even been involved in having to intervene to calm aggressive co-workers in a heated argument". What do I value more , wages, environment, advancement, and so on being allowed to select only one answer.I have been machining in a jobshop environment for several decades and I have never been tested in any way. I have never worked for a place that even considered drug screening or blood tests. I don't mind the drug tests as I don't even smoke or drink but in these days of personal privacy I don't like the head exams. I wonder where would this info be compiled and who it be shared with and what would be the real meaning of such a test. Also have there ever been any false results on the drug screening and what would that mean? I am required to provide medial records that and show all medication I may be taking and what else would they need to know and who would they share that with. I have never even been asked my age before and thought that was private but I find they will end up with more data about me than I have myself. What is it like when I might be sent on a job as I feel I would like to interview them before I accept any position if you can call it that. What if I find that the jobs sucks from the start? I am just to hesitant about this whole new style of working and am not sure if I should even give it a try.

Does anyone have any advice to offer an old fashion machinist about what it is like and any first hand experiences?

Thanks to anyone that will reply.

John

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John
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Hey John, Where are you located, I am looking for a machinist. No head exams, just want someone who will show up every day, be ready and willing to work, and show an inkling of interest in what they do.

Darrell

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reidmachine

Right now we are under some deep water after endless rain. The animals are forming lines of two each. If that is any clue. By one account there are 346 jobs posted and 10,545 job seekers in manufacturing here in the N.E.of New Hampshire.

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John

Now there would be a very long commute, inland empire so cal here. Hope you guys get a break from the rain soon!!

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reidmachine

I have actually thought of moving many times. Now even more. How is the job market on the left coast? I even went to the local employment Office to see listings and that is where I got the data that today says 331 jobs with

10,446 registered job seekers. All low paying or entree level jobs. If I were to accept a temp job for several months I would rather fly once and get it over with instead of a long commute each day. No chance of public transportation what-so-ever in the region. No car pooling only 'Stop and Ride' areas that doesn't sound efficient to me for my trade.
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John

e-mail me your info

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reidmachine

OK, will do. Might take a day or so.

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John

Rain? Whats that?

Btw..Im still waiting for those pictures of the Hardinge miller

Gunner

"If thy pride is sorely vexed when others disparage your offering, be as lamb's wool is to cold rain and the Gore-tex of Odin's raiment is to gullshit in the gale, for thy angst shall vex them not at all. Yea, they shall scorn thee all the more. Rejoice in sharing what you have to share without expectation of adoration, knowing that sharing your treasure does not diminish your treasure but enriches it."

- Onni 1:33

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Gunner

John wrote:

Out west there are more jobs than machinists, right now. The only problem is most of them are entry level. There's always a job somewhere for a machinist who really fits the description of the term, but most of the good ones have jobs they're not just itching to leave. Probably because the wages aren't what they used to be. When Boeing spits out 40,000 "machinists", the rest of the Seattle market reflects it. Networking is the answer. I have never met anybody who found their dream job via the newspaper or an employment office. The good jobs are got by knowing somebody, or sheer dumb luck walking through the right door at the right time. Knowing somebody gets you better odds. It can be difficult meeting the right people in person, because you kind of need a machine shop environment to meet machine shop types. Some might reccomend the local tavern, but I've learned you're more apt to meet drunks there than good machinists you want to work with. This newsgroup can be pretty good for virtual networking, probably the best thing going online for free. Headhunters are probably a waste of time for manufacturing jobs. I've met people volunteering time at a VoTech school, which can be a good way to meet machine shop managers when you're new to an area. You know, the types of people who serve on advisory councils. Whatever you do, don't be surprised if you find getting a good job to be just as much, if not more work than actually doing work every day. Break's over. Time to go back on my head.

Later,

Charlie

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Charlie Gary

If Darrell cant find you a job, I or others here likely can. Spindles are turning here in California.

Just be prepared for a bit of ...ah..Culture Shock. And Sticker Shock, particularly in So Cal.

But the weather is nice, the women are pretty and the food is good.

Gunner

"If thy pride is sorely vexed when others disparage your offering, be as lamb's wool is to cold rain and the Gore-tex of Odin's raiment is to gullshit in the gale, for thy angst shall vex them not at all. Yea, they shall scorn thee all the more. Rejoice in sharing what you have to share without expectation of adoration, knowing that sharing your treasure does not diminish your treasure but enriches it."

- Onni 1:33

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Gunner

"John" wrote in news: snipped-for-privacy@comcast.com:

style of working and am not sure if I should even give it a try.

Thank the lawyers for all the testing and questions and such.

There are some machinist openings in Eastern TN, at Alcoa. Have a friend who works there. Good pay and bennies for the area.

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You must specifically apply for a Machinist position.

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Anthony

On his way to California he could spend a few weeks out here in nowhere land. I might could use soome help, I know in Midland and Odessa they are hiring. . .and hiring, and hiring. . .

Just for Cliffies edification ther is rig up and making hole in Pecan Station Oil Field. Rigs a starting to pop up. . .albeit slowly cause people around here have been stung to many times before.

wd

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William D. Green

Same here around Bakersfield. One of the big reasons the rigs are slow to spud in..is that there arent all that many rigs left. Lots of them were scrapped out over the last 15 yrs. Same with a shit load of offshore rigs.

A buddy of mine has been hanging on to a rat hole rig for way over 10 yrs that I know..he is now working it regular. Had to go all the way through it..sitting for 10-15 yrs didnt do it any good.

It wasnt profitable to produce via secondary recovery at $29 a barrel..now the price of oil is up and its becoming profitable.

Gunner

"If thy pride is sorely vexed when others disparage your offering, be as lamb's wool is to cold rain and the Gore-tex of Odin's raiment is to gullshit in the gale, for thy angst shall vex them not at all. Yea, they shall scorn thee all the more. Rejoice in sharing what you have to share without expectation of adoration, knowing that sharing your treasure does not diminish your treasure but enriches it."

- Onni 1:33

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Gunner

Latva Machine in Newport has been advertising, and the Lebanon area of the upper valley (NH) is always hot. A lot of companies want to work through temp agencies on a temp to hire basis.

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jeff

I have always found this to be the case. I am always looking sometimes harder than others depending on the job requirements and hours that I can spare to hunt down that better than most place to work. I have plenty of time and am working temp jobs I create always telling the new employer I am moving or some other excuse until I find what I like. I hate to work any place long enough to get into a rut.

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John

That's what I like to hear. I am itchin' to do something really different this time and packing it up would be nice. I just have to figure out a plan. I would have to find a place to stay and buy some tools then look for a place I like not forgetting that I am not on vacation. That is something else I need. Maybe I will work my way up to Seattle. I only stopped off there for a short time. More rain from what I recall.

John

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John

I am open to all suggestions at this point. I was room mates in the USAF with a guy that is or was at one time chief of Police somewhere around Riverside or maybe LA. I remember seeing him on TV some years back. He had a last name that no one could forget. I don't know if he would want to meet some one from the past and especially a Machinist. I guess that guy must be making some bucks. We were both stationed at Eielson AFB in Fairbanks the

5010 Transportation Squadron.

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John

I have been dealing with head hunters lately and it seems that they have all the jobs and they are temp to hire. The lady I spoke to at the state employment dept. said that there are many jobs that are temporary since 911. No more long term anymore. I guess we are all waiting for something to happen in that regard. Sooner than later I am sure.

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John

I took a quick look at that site last night but didn't get to far. I will have to look again today. Nice sunny day now, finally. Time to get out and roam before I start internetting.

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John

Hey, I remembered, bottom posted.

If your worried about too much rain, that is not a problem out here.

wd

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William D. Green

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