Help winding my own inductor?

On Wed, 24 Dec 2003 23:27:42 GMT, James Meyer Gave us:

Those lines are typically NOT copper. They are not saving copper either.

They run multiple strands to reduce I squared R effects. If all of the cables are an inch in diameter, your half inch skin area is where all the current will be flowing. In each strand. The result is that an equal single strand will not pass as much as the multiple array will. That is due to skin effect. The configuration form of using multiple isolated strands is a litz configuration.

If they were bonded together into one bundle, they would exhibit no benefit from skin effect. It appears as one conductor.

If there IS a benefit from skin effect, and it is due to multiple isolated conductors on a given run between two nodes, then it is a litz configuration, because THAT is the sole purpose for doing it.

My bundling of multiple mag strands to garner gains from skin effects IS a litz configuration because THAT is what litz configurations are for, regardless of the fact that the best configurations for the highest frequencies uses a woven form. That does NOT state that woven forms are the only that qualify for the moniker.

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DarkMatter
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On Thu, 25 Dec 2003 00:50:49 GMT, snipped-for-privacy@texas.net (John Fields) Gave us:

Your first mistake was assuming that I am not knowledgeable.

Then you claim to have "helped out", when you did no such thing.

Your lame ass even stated many things that I did not say, and claimed to have said many things that YOU did not say.

You are a piece of shit, and that will not change, no matter how hard you try.

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DarkMatter

DimBulb, perhaps you'd like to read the patents. There is also a "proximity effect" referred to. I believe someone else brought this up in this thread.

Now *there* is a definitive source!

Sure, at huge currents little things matter. I've read articles about power lines constructed out of a sheath of copper (a.k.a. pipe) around a helical stainless helix (strength).

Understand. Your shovel is dull.

Perhaps you should *learn* from others here. It might make you a better engineer.

Evidently not.

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Keith R. Williams

On Wed, 24 Dec 2003 16:57:59 -0800, DarkMatter wroth:

Fine. Substitute whatever conductor material makes you happy.

From the MWS wire company web site, "The term litz wire is derived from the German word litzendraht meaning woven wire."

MWS is a very large wire manufacturer and they should know what they're talking about.

Multiple non-woven conductors are better than single strands.

Multiple strands get around the limitations imposed by the skin effect.

Multiple non-woven strands are *not* litz wire.

Jim

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James Meyer

On Thu, 25 Dec 2003 04:27:21 GMT, James Meyer Gave us:

READ IT. It says that that is where the term was derived. It does NOT say that that is the meaning of the term in current use.

MWS is the site where I saw 3 strand litz. It is NOT woven, dingledorf!

THAT is what *I* said! It does NOT have to be woven. EXACTLY!

No shit.

It depends on the wire used.

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DarkMatter

On Mon, 22 Dec 2003 03:33:17 +0000, John Woodgate Gave us:

How many Gilberts are we talking here...?

hehee...

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DarkMatter

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