Does anyone know the size of the bolts used to install a standard garage
door rim cylinder lock? There are two bolts and I'm pretty sure the
threads are 24 per inch. I am looking for the correct tap and die and am
not sure of the diameter. I'm pretty sure it is NOT 1/4-24 or 12-24.
Here there unfortunately is no true standard. What I would do is to bring
the cylinder to the hardware store with you and match it up.
If it does not seem to be any of the standard sizes check in the selection
of "stove bolts" These come in some obscure threads.
If I may ask, why are you looking for a tap and die? Ordinarily the lock
cylinder is already tapped, and the screws come with the new cylinder.
I do have a tap and die set - two in fact... English and metric.
I cannot find a match other than to use the thread gauge to measure 24 tpi.
You are correct that many rim cylinders use the same bolt size.
I'm not being rude, but please don't bother giving me all sorts of
suggestions like "just buying a new cylinder", etc. I want to know the
answer to the specific question I posted. The reason for my question is
that I want to identify the size of a certain bolt and it happens to match
the ones in the rim cylinders. I figured somebody on this newsgroup would
know the answer to THAT question and then I'd have my answer!
: Does anyone know the size of the bolts used to install a standard garage
: door rim cylinder lock? There are two bolts and I'm pretty sure the
: threads are 24 per inch. I am looking for the correct tap and die and am
: not sure of the diameter. I'm pretty sure it is NOT 1/4-24 or 12-24.
You aren't giving a whole lot of information. Is it smaller or larger than
1/4? Is it smaller or larger than 6mm? Could it be 10-24? Standard pitches
for 1/4 are 20 or 28 TPI so if it really is 24 TPI it probably is not 1/4
but could be either #10 or #12. Again is it smaller or larger than those
sizes? Metric? Be advised that many metric tap and die sets only have even
sizes i.e. 6 8 10 12 etc but there are infrequently used sizes in between
like 5mm 7mm and 9mm that you are not going to find in a lot of sets and
will have to source individually from a fastener supplier or other
specialized dealer. There are also occaisionally proprietary threads/sizes
of fastener. I have seen a true 10mm metric bolt factory threaded 16TPI
standard for example, although things like that are very uncommon.
Even different for same products. British Yale rim cylinders changed
from Whitworth (I presume) to metric when UK metricated (industry
metricated but there has been some backlash to conversion at consumer
There was also some changes made prior to British metrification. Besides
Whitworth there is UN class threads, this came about as there were minor
differences that were causing some grief in WWII with the old standard
National class. Both were 60 degree threads, but the Brits had a little
different shape on the peeks and the valleys than the US did, and this
wreaked havoc trying to fix aircraft. Whitworth has if I recall a 55 degree
The OP could have anything on the rim cyl as their never has been a standard
for interchange on the screws but it is probably some sort of identifiable
size. If it was metric, it could be that it has a 1 mm pitch which is
pretty close to the 24 tpi that was suggested as that would be 25.4 tpi and
it might seem to be right with the thread gage.
A measurement of the major diameter would probably be the best place to
start to identify the thread over Usenet. You listening Joy?
Who the fuck knows? Theres no such thing as a "standard garage
door rim cylinder lock". They can use whatever size and thread the factory
wants. You got a thread gauge and you are apparently using the damn thing on
a bolt that fits the thing take a mic or caliper and measure the fucking
thing with that. You could do that in 2 minutes compared to fucking around
here for days.
First, thanks to all those who tried to help. I should have given an
approx diameter but assumed it would be assumed since I assumed you all
know what a standard garage door rim cylinder and its screws look like.
Three assumptions is a triple mistake!
I made a mistake. It seems like the screws to my rim cylinder ARE 12-24
like some people said.
A 12-24 nut that fit the rim cylinder screw also seemed to fit the screw
in question so I assumed they were the same. They are not. A nut doesn't
have enough threads for a good comparison test. Another bad assumption.
Not a good day.
So... the question is irrelevant now. But I did learn things I didn't know
before so all was not wasted. And just about every rim cylinder I've seen
uses interchangeable (12-24) bolts. I'm in New Jersey.
And I often use a tap and die to check threads and it seems to work fairly
well as long as I don't force it.
Thanks again for the help and sorry for the bag-load of assumptions.
We all tend to outsmart ourselves at one time or another.
A nut doesn't
A nut should be able to work for thread identification.
Now just don't waste a lot of time looking for 12-24 socket head cap screws,
I got pissed when I was trying to find these at the hardware stores and I
found out that no one makes them. This is a good item to send the
apprentice to fetch. right along with sesamee seed hot dog buns and cashews
in the shell.