Compressive yield strength of 4140 versus A2 tool steel hardened to RC 55-60

Hi everyone,
Does anyone have any data on the compressive yield strength of 4140 &
A2 tool steel hardened to both 55 & 60 RC ? Perhaps there is a chart
out there but I have not been able to find anything, especially with
regards to 4140. I would suspect the A2 is higher, but I would like to
compare them.
A chart showing compressive yield strength of various steels at
different hardnesses would be helpful. Any links or web sites you could
refer me to would be helpful. I already tried
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I'm also
interested in comparing S5 & S7 tool steel at the same two hardnesses.
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AISI 4140 Steel, oil quenched, 205°C (400°F) temper, 25 mm (1 in.) round = 220 kips yield (Rc 50-55)
That's as much as I'm going to look up for you., Now YOU follow up with a material search on MatWeb.
Brian Whatcott Altus OK
You can do it.
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Brian Whatcott
Hi Brian,
Thanks for your reply.
I will dig further into the matweb site and take a closer look.
I would like to find a cam material that has a compressive yield strength of 260,000 to 300,000 PSI after heat treatment. The cam rotates so slow I think the application could be considered static. My maximum Hertz contact stress is about 260,000 PSI.
I think I remember reading in Timoshenko's book on the strength of materials that hardened steel can handle Hertz contact stresses of over 450,000 PSI in static applications owing to the fact that at the center of the ellipse of contact, the material is compressed not only in the direction of the force but also in the lateral direction. I don't think it mentioned what type of steel or how hard. I do not presently have a copy of the book.
Thanks again, John
Brian Whatcott wrote:
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What you are seeking is more related to Bearing Strength than Compressive Strength. Bearing Strength is usually substantially higher than Compressive Strength for most metals. For Example; for 4335V, Fcy is 198 ksi while Fby is 274 to 302 ksi. for H-11, Fcy is 260 ksi while Fby is 365 ksi for 250 Maraging steel, Fcy is 260 ksi while Fby is 354 ksi and one of my favorite very useful wide-property stainless is for PH13-8Mo, Fcy is 211 ksi while Fby is 356 ksi
Take a look at MIL-HDBK-5, they are all listed in there along with the statistical basis for properties and A and B values.
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Harry Andreas
Thanks for the additional information Harry Andreas,
I found the MIL-HDBK-5 book you mentioned at this link...
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That's one heck of a reference book !
You can download the 2003 version for free, and I guess they have a new updated version for a few hundred bucks.
Thanks again,
arry Andreas wrote:
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There is a SANE or ASME spec that does that. I'll have to dig through some files at work to find a copy of it.
That should be in ksi (kips/in^2). Typo or something.
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Jeff Finlayson
He gave the rod diameter, so I'm assuming he means yield tension, which would be in kips.
Don Kansas City
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220 ksi is a standard strength for high strength alloy steels. The 25 mm (1 in) diameter is a heat treat thickness. Heat treating is more difficult for thicker parts. So the allowables are generally lower for thicker sections with everything else the same.
FYI: Here's a link to the where the data above came from.
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