1 ton diesel milage

My coworker has a dodge with a Cummings and 8 bolt wheels, not duals. He gets 20-22 mpg. He put a chip in it to play games with programming. 6000# truck getting that beats the heck out of my 18-21 mpg now dead ranger 4x4.

Just keep an eye on cost to acquire differential from gas powered, miles expected during service life, and price per mile in fuel.

Diesels often make economic sense, hybrids don't.

Wes

On Fri, 2 Nov 2007 20:51:20 -0700, with neither quill nor qualm, "SteveB" quickly quoth:

Yeah, some of the Toy and Nissan bolt-on fender flares are nasty. How about those hit-with-the-ugly-stick Dodge PT Cruisers and the Chebby HHR. BUTT FUGLY!

On Sat, 3 Nov 2007 00:59:28 -0400, with neither quill nor qualm, "Ed Huntress" quickly quoth:

The FJ Cruiser? (Why does everything with a "cruiser" name suck bigtime?) Methinks their market was the 4WD crowd who was already putting larger meats on their rides and needed to bolt-on glass fenders anyway.

Ayup.

Larry Jaques wrote in news: snipped-for-privacy@4ax.com:

The cummins is a great motor, I don't find it to be offensively loud, especially the newer models. Hey, it's a work TRUCK, it's supposed to give you a little feedback via the ears. Ford uses an International motor, but unlike Dodge, which basically gives Cummins a HP/Torque figure they want and lets Cummins handle it from there, Ford is heavily into the design of the International motor, basically just using International as an engine plant. International makes a good engine, if you get one they have designed.

Too_Many_Tools wrote in news: snipped-for-privacy@o38g2000hse.googlegroups.com:

It's a TRUCK, it's supposed to have scratches, dents in the bed and fenders, big dings in the bumpers. Gives it that Truck charactor. :)

Larry,

I just made that change from a 85 F250 to a 07 Taco V6 with manual

Jay Cups

Larry Jaques wrote:

My friend has a 1 ton Dodge 4X4 dually and gets 18.5 mpg. I think it's a

Richard W.

Plastic, stuck on "bodywork" on the high buck versions of the GM trucks that came off looking like the company was too cheap to invest in actual fiberglass. Hooooeeee!

Ewwwwww!

Cheers Trevor Jones

Which is why its mostly city people that buy em. Hardly any self respecting redneck.

Gunner

"[L]iberals are afraid to state what they truly believe in, for to do so would result in even less votes than they currently receive. Their methodology is to lie about their real agenda in the hopes of regaining power, at which point they will do whatever they damn well please. The problem is they have concealed and obfuscated for so long that, as a group, they themselves are no longer sure of their goals. They are a collection of wild-eyed splinter groups, all holding a grab-bag of dreams and wishes. Some want a Socialist, secular-humanist state, others the repeal of the Second Amendment. Some want same sex/different species marriage, others want voting rights for trees, fish, coal and bugs. Some want cradle to grave care and complete subservience to the government nanny state, others want a culture that walks in lockstep and speaks only with intonations of political correctness. I view the American liberals in much the same way I view the competing factions of Islamic fundamentalists. The latter hate each other to the core, and only join forces to attack the US or Israel. The former hate themselves to the core, and only join forces to attack George Bush and conservatives." --Ron Marr

On Sat, 03 Nov 2007 18:08:19 -0500, with neither quill nor qualm, JayCups quickly quoth:

I test drove the Tacoma last and didn't like the hard pressure required for braking. The Tundra's 4-wheel disc brakes spoiled me in ten minutes.

Yeah, they're not bad trucks at all.

And a great invention it was. I adore 'em! If nothing else, I could see the scenery better, looking over all the cars in the SoCal traffic jams. The air's cleaner up there, too. Then add the nice views when girls with short skirts drive up next to you, and you've proven the worth of the pickup without even working it. ;)

Yeah, my first was a '60 F-100. I climbed under the hood and stood beside the engine to change plugs/points/condenser during tuneups. Those days are gone forever, huh?

On Sat, 03 Nov 2007 21:14:28 -0800, with neither quill nor qualm, Gunner Asch quickly quoth:

Isn't that a contradiction in terms, G-mon?

This just in:

Three TN Hillbillies are sitting on a porch shootin' the breeze.

Larry Jaques wrote in news: snipped-for-privacy@4ax.com:

I believe that should read AL, not TN. :)

I have a 2000 F250, 4x4, crew cab with diesel. It has a 3.73 rear axle (SRW). It gets 16.8 for average driving around town if I don't pull a trailer at all during the tank of fuel, then 18-19 on highway, with no trailer.Pulling a trailer will drop the mileage to

No, first one was a modifed Holden bodywork then Ford built them for Aussie farmers who wanted to carry sheep and wife & kids in the same vehicle.

Quote from Wiki search for utility truck

Origins

Holden coach works of Australia was the first to integrate a cargo area with the bodywork of a passenger vehicle. Starting in 1924 Holden produced these bodies for Chevrolet and Dodge cars (Holden later became a subsidiary of General Motors). These "roadster pickups" were essentially an extension of the open top roadster design, but with a 'well' type cargo area between the wheels. Barsby and other coach builders also built roadster pickups[1]. Later, in 1934[2], as the result of a request from a Victorian farmer's wife, Ford Australia combined the cab of its newly released Ford Coupe body with a well-type load area fully integrated into the coupe body, producing the first 'Coupe Utilities'[3]. Holden built a chevrolet ute in 1935 but utes werent sold in America until the 1957 ford ranchero. Both types of vehicles were called "utilities" or "utes" for short.

Both the Coupe Utility and the Roadster pickup continued in production, but the improving economy of the mid to late '30s and the desire for improved comfort saw coupe utility sales climb at the expense of the roadster pickup until, by 1939, the roadster pickup was all but a fading memory. No car maker offered a roadster pickup or ute when car production restarted after World War II.

By the mid-'80s in North America, the coupe utility began to fall out of favor again with the demise of the Ranchero after 1979, the Volkswagen Caddy, Dodge Rampage/Plymouth Scamp and of the Chevrolet El Camino. Subaru offered the Brat in the early 1980's but still offers a Coupe Utility as the Baja today.

The pickup truck, on the other hand, started its life a little earlier and is defined by its separate, removable, well-type 'pickup bed'. This pickup bed does not contact the cabin part of the vehicle, while the ute bed is an integral part of the whole body. Both the Coupe Utility and Closed Cab pickup designs migrated to light truck chassis & these are correctly known respectively as Utility trucks & Pickup trucks. Eventually the pickup design found a natural home on the smaller truck chassis while the ute became entrenched as a passenger car derivitave, so that no modern manufacturer today offers a pickup derived from a passenger car, nor a Coupe Utility derived from a truck model.

Pickups started before that. there was a Ford model T pickup. here's a link to one.

On Sun, 04 Nov 2007 13:12:25 GMT, with neither quill nor qualm, Anthony quickly quoth:

Al(gore) LIVES in TN, Tony.

Toyota has yet to understand what a truck is. This is shown by the main complaint of the 07 Tundra (besides the recall)

If I can help it I will never own another Ford, and this from a guy who's dad bought nothing but Fords for 30+ years.

I've got a '64 Ford 1 ton that will probably be running for another 50 years but. . .

That stopped in '73 when he bought his last Ford, an F150 truck. It was a dog from day one and Ford never could fix it. They couldn't even get the amp gauge to work for more than a month.

I have a 91 Ford 1 ton diesel which I came to find out had a transmission that is so bad that its next to impossible to find one that is still working that hasn't been rebuilt.

I have an 02 Focus that Ford knows has a problem with the ignition lock but they refuse to admit that it is a factory defect. The ignition will lock up w/o warning. You go out to startyour car and the key just won't turn.

That car was the last straw for me and Ford.

Last good Ford was the one I learned to drive on. My present car has the instrument cluster in the same sensible location. Gerry :-)} London, Canada