3 Phase receptacles

The only reason why I do not do what you are proposing is that I found a very good deal on a 3 phase receptacle and four plugs. I think that the chances of plugging a single phase appliance into your 3 phase outlets (which seems to be your concern) are slim to none.

Is your shop ever going to get (shudder) inspected?

GWE

Ivan Vegvary wrote:

It doesn't meet the electrical code.

I've got a PILE of three phase recepticles. More like a MOUNTAIN. Send me a pic of what you need. My better 1/2 plans on putting them on ebay this winter, might as well get started.

Are you looking at the wrong supplier? I'm surprised at the prices you quote. Ok, I'm in the UK and things are not necessarily identical, but I'd pay the equivalent of $15 for a 32 amp 415V 4 pole (delta) wall socket and $11 for the matching plug. 5 pole (star) would be about 15% more expensive.

I would be very wary about using a single phase connector for three phase under any circumstances.

Mark Rand RTFM

Karl, I replied directly to your email address. Ivan

"Karl Townsend" wrote in message news:0_kOg.1606$ snipped-for-privacy@newsread2.news.pas.earthlink.net...

Hi Mark

Why would you be concerned about using a single phase socket for 3 phase in your home shop?

Jerry

Greetings Karl, I would be interested in some sets if the price is right. As long as I have female and male it shouldn't matter. But I think that as long as the amperage is the same the blades will have the smae orientation. Eric

You would care if you had a fire for any reason, and the fire inspector found it.

Your Email, didn't come through. But, I mentioned this to the SO and got THE LOOK.

I raise apples for a living. We're in the middle of harvest and just don't have any time at all. I bought a whole shelf rack floor to ceiling of electrical plugs and plugins and receptacles ( over 1000 total). All three phase, 20 amp to 100 amp. several styles. I'm keeping a lifetime inventory of what I need and ebaying the rest early this winter.

Karl

Where I am living, four reasons:-

2) Single phase + earth is three wires, Three phase + earth is 4 or 5 wires.

4) Someone else might plug something in to the wrong socket.

Where you are living items 2 and 3 are different, but 1 and 4 trump 2 and 3 :-)

Mark Rand RTFM

Maybe your insurance company if fire, injury or a fatality are involved.

If it is just you with no employees well a man should be able to do as he wishes as long as he accepts the consequences of a miscalculation.

Wes S

You are required to have a disconnect at each piece of equipment. A plug/receptacle fufills this. If you hard wire it, you'd need a disconnect switch or circuit breaker next to the unit.

Wayne D.

After the fire is out, then all your wiring and construction work will be inspected by the local FD Arson Investigator, the building inspection authorities, and the adjuster for your homeowners insurance

- and if they find receptacles being misused like that they will not be amused. You might even find you don't have insurance any more.

Either hardwire them, or use the right receptacles and cord caps. They are deliberately keyed so you can't plug into a device with the wrong voltage or current ratings.

Otherwise it's too darned easy for someone to come in and plug into what they think is 120/240 but is really 240V/3Ph/4W - and the pin they expected to be the neutral has a hot leg on it...

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Small correction to the above. Having the property burn down without fire insurance isn't necessarily a loss to the lender... You are still liable for all of the debt unless you manage to declare bankruptcy :-)

Mark Rand RTFM

I do not think that having illegal wiring automatically voids insurance.

Example. Let's say that I illegally wired my garage with wrong receptacles. Then, one day, a drunk guest falls asleep with a cigarette, and the house burns down. Is it true that insurance claim would be denied? I do not believe that to be the case.