Al's Back - Do I win again?

Leigh,

Looks like you win the "Spot the Babin" contest for December. Everyone else, don't worry, he'll have a new Ebay handle by Jan 1.

Karl

Who is this guy? It seems that I've hear this Babin name before and I have only been on here a few months. And from what I remember, everything I've heard is not good. Mike

Oh, my god, poor Harold!! DON'T LOOK!! At least not after you've eaten, or please bring a barf bag!!!

Take care.

Brian Lawson, Bothwell, Ontario.

Damn, I almost missed that and I was looking at some of his stuff.... Oh well, no longer..

Likely to be the Babin, but he must have somebody helping with his spelling! One of his hallmarks was his legendary trashing the spelling of well-known trade names. I think he was able to spell South Bend correctly, but not much else.

Jon

Now Brian, you know damn good and well he won't be able to resist. Jeez, that makes me want to reconsider ever painting a machine again. Of course, since it's apparently taking me years to do my first, I've already sworn off of paint jobs on machine tools. If I ever buy another, it better be ready to run.

Pete Keillor

Just noticed the date on the photos. must be having a job selling it. Nice paint job though.......

Mark Rand RTFM

Not "CT", but "CONN". I wonder if he misspelled that, too.

Chuckle! It would appear my reputation for rust loving is becoming all too well known!

Truth be known, I don't think that machine is rusted. I've taken quite a few pics with digital cameras that show surfaces lightly rusted that aren't. If you'll look closely, you'll notice the surfaces are quite uniform in texture----likely just the way the pic turns out, and not rusted at all. No, I'm not willing to bet my SS check on my opinion.

My Graziano is virtually barren of paint around the headstock. The paint they used doesn't stand up to chemical coolants. Mine used to wash off on a daily basis, and didn't take long to get down to iron. It doesn't look as nice as it did when it was new, but I know the machine is sound, and don't worry about appearances. My machines were intended to be run for gain, and they were. The time it takes to keep them looking like new is poorly wasted when you're running behind on deliveries, so they rarely got polishing. Wiped and oiled regularly, where it really matters.

Harold

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I'd like to reconsider my position of rust on that machine. Yeah, it does have some, but maybe not as badly as it looks. (Any at all is too much). Handle on the quill lock, tailstock, is a good example. Definitely rusted. The rest may have been cleaned to some degree. It's hard to say.

One other thing. That isn't a 16" machine. They made a 14" and a 17", neither of which have the magnetic clutches. Each is a geared head machine, with the gear assemblies in the headstock. The machine pictured is a Sag

12, a 12" machine, with the transmission located in the base of the machine. Headstock has the high/low range gearing, and is driven by three belts from the transmission. The natural gap created by the lowered carriage ways and the termination of the tailstock ways creates the ability to swing a short length, large diameter. With the way covers removed, it will swing 17-1/2". The handle on the right side of the carriage is the gear selector and forward/reverse selector. Twisting changes speeds, raising starts the machine forward, and lowering reverses rotation. It can be done on the fly.

Harold

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Hey again Harold,

Well, it was because of the rusty appearance of the "hand surfaces", and most particularly that it was a Graz, that I was afraid for your health if you looked. Gotta admit, the ways didn't look too bad, what you could see of them, but that always makes one leery too, doesn't it? If the ways are good-to-perfect, there's usually ten pix showing them, and nothing on a big chuck ding or something else awful.

Anyway, I'd like to have it as they are beautiful machines, but I've been so busy for a few days I don't even know where the auction stands at the moment. Guess I'll go look.

Take care.

Brian "Really-wish-it-was-a-DSG" Lawson, Bothwell, Ontario.

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Sweet machines, the DSG liine. I ran a 42" model years ago. Very worthy machine, it was.

Harold

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No matter how the above post is looked at, whether true or false, it is hilarious! ERS

I believe Harold is correct.

Gunner

"Pax Americana is a philosophy. Hardly an empire. Making sure other people play nice and dont kill each other (and us) off in job lots is hardly empire building, particularly when you give them self determination under "play nice" rules.

Think of it as having your older brother knock the shit out of you for torturing the cat." Gunner

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Yet another correction. Graziano made a 15" machine, not a 14" machine.

Harold