Billy Mays is dead

They said he had just returned to his home in Tampa, after shooting another batch of his obnoxious commercials. Local news reported that some luggage fell on his head, from an overhead compartment during a rough landing at the Tampa International Airport

On Mon, 29 Jun 2009 09:45:26 -0400, the infamous John Husvar scrawled the following:

In any case, his karma caught up with him. That's fitting, oui?

-- Life is not about waiting for the storms to pass; it's about learning how to dance in the rain. --Anon

This too is Bush's fault!

yes, both both of them, and cheney.

IT'S A CONSPIRACY, I SAY, GODDAMMIT!

I hated his ads as much as anybody, but I did enjoy the "Pitchmen" show. People bringing in weird shit for them to promote. One guy had spent $3000 developing a necktie that always stayed in place & had a built in pocket. On and on.

Bob

An sad thing to happen, now if the ShamWow guy bit it, I might not feel so bad. ;)

Wes

What killed him; excessive yelling? JR Dweller in the cellar

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I thought it was a broken vein in the brain - speech slurred after hours and not talking well. Now it seems like a cop out - but it might have been a blood clot that was dislodged in the heavy slam on the plane.

Sounded like the pilot put the nose wheels down first! Both blew. I'd suspect the altimeter in the plane or the radar glide path....

Normally, the heavy center mounted wheels take the impact, and most of the time, a kiss then slowing down by air brakes dropping the nose.

Mart> It'd have been just as well if he'd merely quit doing TV ads.

SNIP

Glide path (glide slope) is not "radar". but point taken.

"Nose wheel" touching first can lead to "wheel-barrowing", often causing a rapid and erratic "turn" to the left or right, and there is little control until the mains hit. Precession can cause heavy stowage in the overheads to force the compartment(s) open and discharge the contents.

As an aside, the only "go-around" I experienced was many moons ago at Tampa. Service vehicle got too close to the runway, or so we were told later.

Brian Lawson, Bothwell, Ontario.

Brian Lawson fired this volley in news: snipped-for-privacy@4ax.com:

It's hard to see how he could've put the nosewheels down first in that sort of aircraft, in landing configuration. With the flaps extended, and at the speed they come over the fence, the angle of attack has to be fairly high. That automatically puts the mains on the deck first, unless he just deliberately nosed down before contact (that just ain't likely, even with a student pilot).

However, the pilot might have pushed the yoke forward right after the mains were down. That would impose higher forces on the nose gear than it's designed to take. The other possibility is that he engaged the thrust reversers before the nosewheel came down. Same outcome.

LLoyd

like this?

(in this day and age i wonder if the video is real)(looks real though)

b.w.

I'm assuming this was a jet. Commercial passenger aircraft is likely a bit different but the Phantoms (F4's) had an angle of attack indexer that told the pilot the angle. It was a fairly important instrument when landing.

Go back a page, for some reason it didn't pickup the page I turned to.

Wes

"William Wixon" fired this volley in news:sFq2m.12214$ snipped-for-privacy@newsfe25.iad:

Yeah, well... brakes can do it too, but only if you _really_ plant the mains hard.

LLoyd

I still have my Radar book on the Christmas tree it produces for the glide path. The idea is to fly down the trunk and don't let either wing dip or rise through branches. Once on the correct set - a perfect landing in the sweet spot. The others were shorter or longer on the runway.

So it depends on the airport or the service ability of the plane.

The shortest runway I landed on was the .7 that is 7/10 mile long. The longest was at DFW.

Mart> SNIP

I never saw a radar glide slope. And I was an ILS tech in the Air Force. One side of the antenna broadcast at one frequency and the other side at another frequency. Same for the elevation slope. The beat frequency and strength the plane got from the signals told you where you were in the slope. High or low or right or left. Marker beacons told you the distance.