A two flute will not center particularly well. its only contacting the inside of the cup at two points.
Thats the easy part...
Gunner
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Gunner
Yup, and nope..sure dont. On the list, though they tend to be extremely large, bulky and of limited use to me.
Ive got a couple centerless shops who would do a brother-in-law job for me..but where is the fun in having someone else do it?
Gunner
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Harold & Susan Vordos
You don't. That's a stupid idea, hardly worthy of your time, Gunner. You'll never achieve the level of precision necessary to achieve a good running end mill. Further, unless you have a good precision grinder, you're in for one hell of a rough time grinding the shanks, anyway. It will require flood cooling, or you'll heat the shanks red hot grinding them. Turning would be difficult, but not impossible. The interrupted cut would raise hell for sure.
The only way I can think of to do this job reasonably easily is to do as Jim suggested, part them on a cutter grinder, then infeed them in a centerless grinder to reduce the shank size. You'd have a fair chance of staying concentric. If you're really hell bent on running them, and have no access to a centerless, cut them in half, bore a sleeve that is a snug fit with the end mills, then hold the sleeve in your 4 jaw and dial it in two places. You may be able to hold a half thou that way. You'll also risk the end mill moving, or chipping the periphery by chucking pressure. As I said, bad idea all around.
Harold
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Gunner
runs cooler and
Ayup. I was getting a beautiful finish. My OD grinder is a Covel 512, with 10 gal of grinding oil in the coolant tank.
Gunner
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Jeff Wisnia
This is obviously "a long run for a short slide", but if I was stuck absolutely positively having to do that job I'd probably approach it this way:
Chop off one fluted end.
Use one of the low temperature melting Cerro alloys and "pot" the full length of the remaining fluted end centered by eye inside a 7/8" I.D. mold. The mold can be made from almost anything, even wood.
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Yank it out of the mold and while holding it in a 5/8" collet by the shank, turn the Cerro Alloy to 3/4" diameter.
Holding the Cerro Alloy end in a 3/4" collet, grind the end mill shank to 1/2".
Melt off the Cerro Alloy.
QED
Maybe you can teach the guy who owns those end mills how to do it himself.
Jeff
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jim rozen
Well I think everyone was dancing around that idea but wasn't brave/blunt enough to simply blurt it out. Thank you harold. It had to be said at some point.
Jim
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Bob May
You have to hold onto some of the shaft in addition to the flutes and that will end up being very little material for holding the mill. Holding by the flutes will destroy the collet in short order and if the flutes are not a spiral, there is no possibility of holding the mill without cocking. It would be fun to do to the guy if you really consider the guy to be an idiot in many ways.
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Harold & Susan Vordos
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Harold
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Martin H. Eastburn
runs cooler and
Cool -
I mean Good job !
Martin
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