Don -- Minneapolis road bridge collapse

Larry, if they are really out to get you and you are NOT paranoid then you are clewless and situationally unaware. A Bad Thing (tm).

All national institutions of government, whether American, mexican, or Jappanese, appear to me no other than human inventions, set up to terrify and enslave mankind, and monopolize power and profit.

On Sat, 04 Aug 2007 15:50:38 -0500, with neither quill nor qualm, Nick Hull quickly quoth:

Heh heh heh. Who said there's separation between church and state?

Are you paranoid if people really want to kill you?

True enough.

Gunner

We were discussing this at lunch today.

Dorothy said that she was glad and didn't miss it at all.

All the news is bad news and she said it kept her upset and anxious all the time.

Now, she said, she feels at peace most of the time. Nothing keeping her stirred up.

She also said that she really enjoyed reading more and talking to each other(!). None of that, "Shhh, I'm watching this..." or "can it wait for a commercial".

Ws stopped for gas at a Wall Mart station. There is a very loud flat screen TV at every pump running BUY IT NOW commercials constatnly.

Man, I miss those - like I miss a headache.

Richard

After a Computer crash and the demise of civilization, it was learned Gunner Asch wrote on Sat, 04 Aug 2007

I'm not paranoid. Paranoia is the delusion that others are working in concert to do you harm. It's that "in concert" that gives it away. Most people are out to do you no good, but not "you" specifically, just those not "me/us".

So I'm not paranoid. It is all a plot by my enemies to make me appear paranoid.

And planning ahead is not paranoia.

tschus pyotr

-- pyotr filipivich "Quemadmoeum gladuis neminem occidit, occidentis telum est. " Lucius Annaeus Seneca, circa 45 AD (A sword is never a killer, it is a tool in the killer's hands.)

But what if there are people working in concert to kill a group of say...Americans?

True indeed. Its called "common sense" which appears to be not so common anymore.

Gunner

OTOH, we lose that many killed on the roads every 3 months and even more killed in hospitals by bad care. You are more likely to be killed by cars/hospitals than by terrorists, especially if you live in FreeAmerica where terrorists avoid ;) Free men own guns - www(dot)geocities(dot)com/CapitolHill/5357/

After a Computer crash and the demise of civilization, it was learned Gunner Asch wrote on Sat, 04 Aug 2007

Still not "paranoia" to be aware of that. Like I said, paranoia is the delusion they are working together. Now, being the object of a real conspiracy, that is another thing. I seem to recall a US government official committed suicide in the fifties because he thought he was going crazy, thinking that people were following him. Later it came out, that people had been following him!

It never really was all that common, or it would not have been noted as such :-) Planning ahead was just one of those things which prudent men did. And that included paying attention to those things which could go wrong, and preparing for them. Be it flood, fire, famine or Federal Assistance Programs - as we used to say in Naval architecture "Plan Ahead, you will need one some day."

pyotr

-- pyotr filipivich "Quemadmoeum gladuis neminem occidit, occidentis telum est. " Lucius Annaeus Seneca, circa 45 AD (A sword is never a killer, it is a tool in the killer's hands.)

Believe this: It is NOT paranoia if they are, in all reality, out to get you. And this government is out to get anyone who doesn't dance to their tune. We all used to "hear" about the CIA and the feds who did this and that. And then, with the releasing of documents, we found out that it was much worse than anyone even imagined. People who used to put out the idea that it was time to move to the mountains and bunker in were thought to have had one too many acid trips. Now, they are considered unheard prophets.

Tighten your belts, people, and stock up on ammunition. If the government don't get us, the Mexicans will. Either that or social rot.

I'm voting for social rot.

Steve

From all appearances, it seems that you are well ahead of the game in that aspect.

Since you are down in Grand Rapids, did you ever ride the National 24 HR challenge? I've ridden it a few times. 115, 200+ a couple times and my personal best of 253 or near that.

I've had a bottle thrown at me and I try to stay out of traffic, almost got taken out by an oversize mobile home. Most profesional drivers are very good, probably due to our zero tolerance litigious enviroment where no firm wants a bad apple. It also could be because they take pride in their work.

I've ridden the Michigander many times along with the Dalmac. Michigan on a bicycle is great.

That isn't good. I just looked down and there was a chipmonk inside the house. Wonder what he chewed his way through? Note to wes, tour the crawlspace this weekend. Load the .22 and air rifle and take no prisoners.

I think they fixed that up a bit. Since I live here, I've never used it of course.

That it is. I bumped into a guy the other day on practicalmachinist that is in the same county and we have recently delt with the same gent in Ferndale.

I always loved to go to Cusino Lake near Melstrand to camp. Haven't made it up there for a few years, backpacked with my dog Thor (rip) once. Maybe next year I'll make it up there again.

Wes

Yes I am familiar with that race but I have never tried to ride in it. I do look through the results compiled in the local newspaper for it. Pretty amazing how far some people can ride. I would be doing good and proud to get as far as you did. The most I've ever rode in one day is ~80 miles. The bike I normally ride has 2.25 inch wide road tires, mountain frame, fenders, Scott ATB handle bars and a dirty old cardboard box strapped to the rear rack for road treasures :)

Ugh! Did you hit the Photon Cannon and take the wise cracker out? Probably not, it is only a wish button on my bike too.

I know of/read about these. The Dalmac always sounded like a good time and I envy you for having rode in it. I used to bum around St Ignace on Labor Day weekend and you couldn't help but see all of the Dalmac riders in town after they crossed the bridge. I stayed at the Koa just west of the bridge on US2. The best way into town on a bike was via Portage Rd which went past the High School. Several times I saw the shag vehicles for Dalmac staging there.

Some hardware cloth stapled over and/or stuffed into the entrance hole works pretty well. Hopefully they have found any of your HSS/carbide tooling and figured out how to use it yet :)

I used to cruise on past that area on M28. I have a friend over farther west in the Ontonagon area. I used to go looking/exploring for water falls and old mining sites. Some of the old mines are fascinating. Hard to believe today that the area was just booming back in the mid to late 1800's with copper/iron mining. There is a hunk of copper (float copper) on display in Hancock now that I believe weighs 6000 lbs. It would have been neat to have seen the piece found at the Minesota Mine that was alleged to have been 40 feet long and 8 feet thick. It took them over a year to chisel it into pieces that could be hauled out/away.

I kinda wonder if they might reopen some of the mines with a bit newer technology, seeing the price of copper is so high. Most of them still had copper, it just wasn't worth extracting it.