HF auto darkening helmet

This was kicked around a year or so, but I don't remember the consensus.
What does everyone think of them. My main concern is eye safety. I am
only an occasional user?
Thanks
Chuck P.
Reply to
Pilgrim
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I am delighted with mine.
Reply to
Ignoramus20387
If you are an occasional user, it will do just fine. As with any quality piece of electronical equipment, I keep mine in a sealed cabinet, resting on my gloves and hat when not in use. The headband cracks, otherwise, and the heat and cold don't do it a lot of good if it's just hanging from a hook. Plus there's always a danger of it getting whacked. Treat it softly, and it should last a while. Go get some batteries in advance, as they always go out right in the middle of an important project on a day and time when the store is closed.
Steve
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SteveB
I am curious how much difference there is between the LCD panels of the different auto-darkening helmets. I've got one substantially cheaper than the HF model, and I find trying to see to weld almost impossible. I've spent quite a while adjusting how dark it is, and there doesn't seem to be a sweet spot between "the spark is bright enough to leave spots on my eyes" and "all I can see is the spark".
So I'm wondering if it's my eyes or my helmet. Hopefully my helmet....
Reply to
Joe Pfeiffer
Steve, as much as I agree that Harbor Freight stuff is usually of shoddy quality, there are some exceptions, and this helmet is one. I have dropped it several times already.
Reply to
Ignoramus20387
Like I said, just keep decent care of it, and if you're an occasional user, it will do. I've heard a lot of satisfied HF autodark users. Joe made the comment that his isn't working too well, or he isn't doing something right.
I have a NexGen EQC. My second. The first was stolen. I welded for about two days with my old Jackson, and went and bought another NexGen. I love it, and have only a couple of minor complaints.
With autodarks, you usually get what you pay for, and on the high end stuff, the only things that make the difference are personal things like how it fits, how easy the controls are to work with gloved hands, quirky things like the lights or sun triggering them.
I have seen pipeline welders with the crappiest plastic helmets with tire tube headbands that could pass x ray every time. Sure, good equipment helps, but knowing the basics helps a lot, too. I suggest that if anyone is considering doing much welding that they get a good hood, and that can be a used one. If it is only for occasional use, any old thing WITH THE PROPER SHADE and other safety precautions will do. When a person progresses to a certain level, they will know if they want to continue with what they got, or move up. Tools have a lot to do with making things, but a good craftsman can make nice stuff with just the basic tools and enough talent.
Steve
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SteveB
The problem with the cheap HF type autodarkening is the speed of darkening. All the helmets will stop the harmful rays without the helmet even being on. But your eyes will get tired if you do a lot of welding. Some of the cheap helmets are 0.25 Seconds to darken, while my Jackson is 1/25000 seconds. Mine is a Nexgen and I love it.
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Calif Bill
"Calif Bill" (clip) The problem with the cheap HF type autodarkening is the speed of darkening.
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ The HF helmet definitely darkens in less that 1/4 second, and I doubt that ANY helmet is that slow. In 1/4 second looking at an arc, you would develop a blind-spot-after-image that would make it impossible to see the puddle. No one has reported that problem. I like my fifty buck HF helmet at lot. With a $300 top-of-the-line helmet you probably get better head band and nod-friction adjustment. Since you don't have to nod the auto adjust helmets, that's not really very important.
Reply to
Leo Lichtman
On Thu, 12 Mar 2009 16:00:21 -0700, the infamous Pilgrim scrawled the following:
Most of us swore by them. A few swore at them for some faint line (which many of us were unaware of until it was pointed out) in the lens.
I don't recall safety (all built to ANSI standards) being an issue at all.
-- I predict future happiness for Americans if they can prevent the government from wasting the labors of the people under the pretense of taking care of them. --Thomas Jefferson
Reply to
Larry Jaques
Do this ONLY with battery-powered auto-darkening helmets. Solar-powered helmets need to be stored in a well-illuminated area, or else taken out and set in the sun a few hours in advance of use.
Reply to
Doug Miller
It does it in 1/20,000th of a second.
Reply to
Ignoramus32252
Absolutely a good professional welder can do wonderful work with crap equipment. For those of us who are only hobby welders and don't get enough practice to become that good, good equipment makes a big difference.
Reply to
Pete C.
Interesting that mix of units. :-) 0.25 for 1/4 while 1/25000 for 0.00004 How about using 250 m sec and 40 u sec (u for micro no Greek letters) Sorry. These kind of things seem to jump out at me. ...lew...
Reply to
Lew Hartswick
I was JUST at a site about a month ago seeing a review on the HF and a another of the cheapo helmets being compared to some of the 300.00 and 400.00 dollar units. For the life of me I can't find the link but the consensus was that he liked the Cheapo one quite a bit better. I remember something about the weight of the newer helmets being a nuisance (although made VERY well) because they would eventually 'tilt forward' on their own and coming down when he bent down to pick up rod or whatever... The other thing was the comfort inside the helmet. The adjustment in the helmet was more secure and the helmet seemed to fit better. He noticed NO difference in FLASH between the two helmets.
If I remember correctly, the only other helmet that beat out the cheapo ones, was one with the air-tight rubber seal and Oxygen tank. It was like $600.00 bucks or something though....
Cheers,
/FC...
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FC...
Because most people understand 1/4 and few relate 0.00004 as 1/25000.
Reply to
Calif Bill
How about the NexGen is X times as fast as the HF? I can wrap my brain around that in an instant.
Steve
Reply to
SteveB
There are several grades of these, at least on the shelves at the local store. I've had the one that ran about $20 on sale, about drove me nuts. Really small viewing area and it was rather long on darkening and lightening. I then got the one that runs about $80 list on sale for about $40, this one was much better, much larger viewing area, standard size cover glass, user-replaceable battery and more to the point, almost instantaneous darkening and lightening. The controls are external, too, not on the module inside the mask. The head-fitting adjustments were better, too. Pay more=3Dget more. I've been using mine for gobbing and dobbing with TIG.
Stan
Reply to
stans4
What helmet has a .25 second spec?
Reply to
Mike Minever
That means I would have to more work into the post than it is worth to me.
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Calif Bill

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