KDE 6500T Diesel Gen Set?

I would not pay that much for a 3,600 RPM "advertised 6.5 kW" no name generator, with unknown hours. $200, is the most I would give if I wanted one.

I have personal experience with a 3,600 RPM diesel generator, what a POS. Would not start in cold weather and obnoxiously loud and vibrated a lot. It was a "Coleman 4 kW diesel generator" sold by WINCO. With a Lombardini diesel engine.

I wonder if "auction folks" are telling the truth about their past prices.

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Ignoramus8558
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Are you sure of that? I was remembering the short side being the diameter of the earths orbit. We should realy change the sub. to astronomy measurements. :-)

For the uninitiated: a parsec is the distance an object is that produces an aparent change of one second of arc as measured from two points in the earths orbit around the sun. I thought it was at opposite ends of a diameter but Guy (as above) seems to indicate only a radius. Will have to check this out. Of course the dictionary just says 19.2 trillion miles. bah! ...lew...

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Lew Hartswick

Yes - I'm not too impressed either with the 3600 RPM aspect of it. It does appear to be "no-name" alright (just looked at one at the auction site and no country of origin at all is evident). Hours are not unknown however as the units offered are all new.

The published noise figures are not bad (57 db) but who knows about cold weather starting (which is when it would be most likely needed for power back-up). I'd like to hear one running but that doesn't look like it will happen as all but one were in crates and the one out was not preped for operation.

Who knows - whatever past pricing, current auction price is all that matters (I would like to know the retail however b/f going).

Laurie Forbes

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Laurie Forbes

Laurie, check this out, they try to sell slightly bigger ones on ebay for UKP 875 (US $1500) and no one is buying:

ebay item 7567285415

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I would stay away from these auctioneers.

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Guy Fawkes

On Thu, 15 Dec 2005 09:37:51 -0500, with neither quill nor qualm, "Ed Huntress" quickly quoth:

The judicious answer would, of course, include figures for both.

-- Vidi, Vici, Veni ---

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Thanks Ig - as far as I can tell, the 6700 is similar to the 6500, at least in appearance and output. I still have not yet been able to determine who manufactures the things but I'm guessing it's almost certainly China. Anyhow, the $1,500 US price (which is about $1,750 Can) would indicate to me at least that purchase at auction should not go much above $1,000 since no warranty is supplied and no apparent service facilities exist near my location. I don't know what I'd do if I bought one and it was DOA or crapped out later. It sounds like a pretty big gamble even though the auction person said they have sold about 100 w/o complaints (well, he sounded credible and the auction house is large, long established here and considered reputable).

I guess I'll go tomorrow and see if the spirit (and bid prices) move me......

Laurie Forbes

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Laurie Forbes

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When they crap out, as they will, you will have an expensive pile of iron. I doubt you will ever find parts anywhere. Conttrast that with old brand name generators, for which parts are available (but sometimes pricey).

I would not bid more than $200, but I see why you could bid more, bt bidding over $500 is not an intelligent thing to do. If there are suckers wanting to pay more, it is their problem. That's how I see it. Seek and you shall find a good genset at a good price.

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Ignoramus8558

On Thu, 15 Dec 2005 21:46:34 GMT, with neither quill nor qualm, Lew Hartswick quickly quoth:

And ruin our reputations for being off-topic of the off-topic drift? Never!

According to Asimov's "Realm of Measure", it's 3.26 light years. According to him, a light year is 5,878,000,000,000 miles (9464 terameters) so a parsec is 19,161,000,000,000 or 30860 terameters. BTW, this is in 3-dimensional parlance.

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Larry Jaques

Not only that Ed - I snared I think Webster Dictionary for getting the math definition wrong for googol - wrote a letter and got a very nice reply from the Editor in Chief! Took the big guy to admit a major error.

The one I was using - in UNIX - via XR4 software from Harvard (IIRC) who had a preliminary software version - e.g. I was doing manual spell checking and dictionary verification before some others in Washington though of it....

I have the letter in my papers - and maybe a soft copy in my arcive. Kinda neat.

Martin Eastburn @ home at Lions' Lair with our computer lionslair at consolidated dot net NRA LOH, NRA Life NRA Second Amendment Task Force Charter Founder

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Martin H. Eastburn

There you go - Si and Non-Si units!

No direct route - indirect only.

1 parsec = 3.261 light years = 9.46 pentameters = 10^12 kilometers divide by 1.6.09 =miles.

something like - 1.9 x1013 more or less (a silly mm) If I did that right... :-)

Martin Martin Eastburn @ home at Lions' Lair with our computer lionslair at consolidated dot net NRA LOH, NRA Life NRA Second Amendment Task Force Charter Founder

Larry Jaques wrote:

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Martin H. Eastburn

The parsec isn't used much any more - Pentameter is the Si unit - but the parsec is allowed in a phased out method. The mile is long gone, but still recognized. Such is life.

Martin Martin Eastburn @ home at Lions' Lair with our computer lionslair at consolidated dot net NRA LOH, NRA Life NRA Second Amendment Task Force Charter Founder

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Martin H. Eastburn

Before you bid, make sure they can be used in the USA and Canada (yes, I checked) - this spec sheet calls for 3000 RPM / 50 Hz only. There are lot of things that won't like running at 50 Hz., either the motors aren't dual rated and will run hot, or they have clocks that will run slow, or even items with computer chips but no clock section that take their timing pulses from the utility power and will get seriously confuzzled.

Now the generator sets could quickly and easily be converted by simply readjusting the governor to 3600 RPM / 60 Hz if these were gasoline engines, but with a Diesel you have to be careful how fast you spin them. It's /probably/ okay to crank them up to 3600 RPM, but I'd want it in writing from the engine maker.

And as an aside, if you want a larger Diesel powered generator set and plan on running these units long and hard, you really should search for a 4-pole generator where the engine is only turning 1800 RPM. That slower engine operating speed makes a big difference when it comes to long term reliability.

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Bruce L. Bergman

The version they are offering is 60 Hz so no problem.

I hear you - the unit would only however be for occasional use (AC backup and portable welding etc). As well, I would like a diesel gen as I make my own car fuel (biodiesel) so I always have a barrel or two on hand (good for those long blackouts :)

Laurie Forbes

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Laurie Forbes

had a preliminary

I'd keep that one. I don't know what for, but I'd keep it.

-- Ed Huntress

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Ed Huntress

Thanks. I did say it was about 50 yrs ago. :-) ...lew...

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Lew Hartswick

googol is how it is really spelled.

Hichhickers guide to the universe I think miss-educated some.

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The number 10 raised to the power 100 (10^100), written out as the numeral

1 followed by 100 zeros.

[Coined at the age of nine by Milton Sirotta, nephew of Edward Kasner (1878-1955), American mathematician.]

Martin Eastburn @ home at Lions' Lair with our computer lionslair at consolidated dot net NRA LOH, NRA Life NRA Second Amendment Task Force Charter Founder

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