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Just passing this along in case anyone in the Oakland, CA area needs something heavy to bring home.
http://www.craigslist.org/eby/zip/39362139.html

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ooooo..20" shaper!
Gunner
"There is no difference between communism and socialism, except in the means of achieving the same ultimate end: communism proposes to enslave men by force, socialism - by vote. It is merely the difference between murder and suicide." - Ayn Rand, from "Foreign Policy Drains U.S. of Main Weapons"
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Gunner,
If you decide to come take a look at this stuff, let me know.
Peter
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Id love to have a Cincy 20", but Ive got absolutly no way to get 6,000 pounds of beautifuly machined and engineered, machine tool, home in the Central Valley. I can get it unloaded here..but getting it here is the killer. Sigh...
damnit.
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There was a free Cincinnati 20" shaper up here a coupla years back too. That one did go for scrap. The guy wouldn't let the vise go unless you took the whole damn machine. He wound up tossing the vise into the scrap heap too. But that had to be six tons of iron .. sigh.
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older machine shop tools Free! (oakland downtown)
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free Cinncinati horiz. mill w/verticle head, some tooling. free sundstrand lathe 22x 48 runs change gear type no change gears. free radial arm drill LARGE. youll need your own fork lift for these babys. Cinncinati 20 inch shaper. in excellent shape. Hurry all will go for scrap in 30 days.
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Last week, NBC News reporters apparently tried and failed to penetrate security at a general aviation airport. They were planning on writing a story about how easy it would be to hijack a helicopter and attack America with it. Instead, they ended up being hauled away in steel (metal contest) bracelets and spending at least a short time behind bars (more metal content) where the police were very interested in the reporter's box cutters (even more metal content) and other weapons they apparently intended to take aboard a rented chopper.
Naturally, NBC ran the story anyhow http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/5626850/ and did not have the integrity to mention the totally relevant fact that they had tried to show how "easy" it would be to hijack a helicopter and had embarrassingly failed. Polite words fail me.
Vaughn
The following is from the AOPA website http://www.aopa.org/whatsnew/newsitems/2004/040812watch.html : The story begins as a man telephones an FBO at St. Louis Downtown Airport (CPS), not far from the Gateway Arch, and asks about chartering a helicopter. About an hour later, two men of Middle Eastern appearance walk into the FBO, pull out cash to pay for the flight, and present driver's licenses from two different states as ID. Office staff notices their car is registered in a third state. "Things just didn't smell right," said St. Louis Downtown Airport Director Bob McDaniel, "so the mechanic took them into the hangar to see the aircraft, while the office person called the FBI and local police." (Airport Watch guidance says to call local police or the FBI if you suspect an immediate threat to life or property.)
The helicopter was blocked by other aircraft, and the mechanic used that as an excuse to stall the two suspects, who began unloading backpacks and odd-shaped luggage from their car.
Local police arrived shortly and hauled the suspects off to jail in handcuffs. Police discovered box cutters and other potential weapons hidden in the bags.
And now (with apologies to Paul Harvey), the rest of the story.
After a little time behind bars, the two "terrorists" confessed that they were NBC employees from New York. Their assignment: A story on how "easy" it was to get information and directions to a helicopter and then hijack it. St. Louis was their first attempt; the network reportedly planned similar tries to penetrate security at airports around the country.
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Vaughn wrote:

<snip> After hearing some of the DUMB and Dumber comments on the NBC stage of the Olympics shows me that the speaking faces knew little of Greek History or Greek anything - their assistants, their handlers, their research staff, their management - Rather embarrassing to watch and even think these fools are being broadcast to some countries without reporters.
The intro of teams, the very impressive symbolism used and not seen.....
Where didn't these young people go to school ?
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Olympics
anything - their

embarrassing
without reporters.
I tried to watch the bicycle races. After 15 minutes of watching, I had seen perhaps a total of perhaps two minutes of actual bicycle racing and knew nothing about who was winning, or even who was in the race. I shut off the TV in frustration. That will the end of my Olympics viewing for these games. It just gets worse and worse.
Vaughn
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On Mon, 16 Aug 2004 05:46:54 GMT, "Martin H. Eastburn"

You dont need to know anything about history as long as you have good self esteem. And pointing out to them just how butt ignorant they really are, is seen as being mean and hateful, not to mention politically incorrect.
Thank you NEA and liberal administrators.
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I think all those folks were edjukated by republicans.
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Thats what you get for thinking.
Gunner
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It being a dull day, I decide to respond to what Gunner
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says...

Indeed - the current adminstration has avoided the study of history, notably in Afghanistan. They've demonstrated legendary stupidity by ignoring all the lessons the British and Soviets had to offer, all of which are laid out in plain english in history books.
Are they 'intelligensia?' Don't know, don't care. How's that.
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Seems the Brits and Russians got their asses handed to them. And how does this apply to the US?
Which reminds me..what is the US inventory control number for brightly colored childrens toys that contain an antipersonel device? Need the Russian one?
    "When you're wounded and left,     On Afghanistan's plains,     And the women come out,     To cut up your remains,     Just roll on your rifle,     And blow out your brains,     And go to your Gawd,     Like a soldier."
Rudyard Kipling (a souvenir of the Anglo-Afghan wars)
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Because we're repeating the same errors they did, there.
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calmly ranted:

Only we're paying a LOT more money to do so, both in reputation and ducats.
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Your opinion is noted. And discounted.
Shrug
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It being a dull day, I decide to respond to what jim rozen
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    And those lessons were?
    Yes, it is true that a British Army, lead by an incompetent, was wiped out almost to the last man. But the two armies which went back to sort things out, kicked but, took names and demolished the maddi.     And the Russians were trying to prop up an "un-Afghani" government through brute force. There is something about mountain peoples which make them ornery and cantankerous, ill disposed towards outsiders and government agents.
    So the Americans, having these examples, did something different. Worked with the locals, to toss out another un-Afghani government, and were successful. Funny that.

    Like I said, most of the "intelligentsia" (those who make their living by being "vun of de schmart guyz") have little historic knowledge, just the proper line on the subject: e.g., Afghanistan is an ungovernable quagmire which both the British and Russians were unable to conquer, and the US is foolish to engage. That's not the whole of the history of Afghanistan, but it serves their purposes.
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pyotr filipivich

Sorry but I'm confused. The Soviets deposed the monarchy in 1979 and installed a group of communist Afghanis friendly to them that was not liked by those outside of Kabul. They sent a huge army and spent 10 years and 15000 lives in a failed effort to keep that government in power. The US sent in a bunch of Special Forces, some regular forces and aircraft and installed a group of Afghanis friendly to them that IS liked by most of those outside of Kabul in a military effort that took about 2 months.
Can you send me the title of the history books you are reading cause I'd love to see them.
Steve.
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