OT Semi Truck parking

The building that I own since last Thursday, has a huge front parking lot that is 133 feet deep and is rather wide also. I have no use for
it.
I am thinking of allowing semi trucks to park there, to make money. There is one semi trailer parked on my property right now -- I have no idea whose semi trailer it is and will sort it out -- so it seems to be legal.
Depending on how much area I give to each semi truck, there is room for, perhaps, 11-12 "big rigs" to be parked in front only, and for some in the back. They would have plenty of room to easily get in and out, through my property.
The past owner could not do it, because his employees needed to park their cars, but for me this is not the case.
So my question, first, is, would parking this many semis raise any concerns for an industrial zoned land?
My second question is, how can I find this out for sure, should I just talk to the village or ask some local attorney? The village, so far, seems nice and accommodating. My bilding is 500 feet from the village hall, as it happens.
In addition, there are no banks and loan covenants in the picture.
Any comments?
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On Sun, 02 Oct 2011 21:06:43 -0500, Ignoramus23561

Couple of things come to mind. If a trucker is paying to park means he can't park at home and he has no company lot or not enough parking there. All this means they have no place to dump trash. Unless you have concrete beams to set the dollies on, there will be some penetrations in the surface from loaded trailers. Expect trash, blownout tires and a torn up parking lot.
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The lot is not in the best of shapes even now.
Can I just ask those truckers to put pads under their semi trailer jacks?
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Ignoramus23561 wrote:

Get some small containers and rent them out in place for storage.
John
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You need to talk to a lawyer. When i had my place on belmont ave. i used to rent parking spaces until the city of chicago passed an ordenance that would have required me to buy a license to park cars. To much hastle so i stoped renting.
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Thanks for a VERY straight answer. I will talk to a local lawyer soon.
By the way, the warehouse not in Chicago, but , obviously, you gave a great example of local laws.
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On 10/2/2011 8:01 PM, Ignoramus23561 wrote:

What do you have for lighting? Need bright lights for security and perhaps a video monitoring system.
Paul
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On Sun, 02 Oct 2011 22:01:57 -0500, Ignoramus23561

Also check on laws concerning security and liability. You'd probably need a new liability policy for that, city licensing, etc. Call your speaking weasel today!
-- Worry is a misuse of imagination. -- Dan Zadra
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I'd say to check with the zoning commission where you are. Tell them the truth, nothing but the truth so help you God. Then just take into advisement what they tell you that you CAN do without getting their ire.
From there, there are liability considerations. Will you be expected to bear any responsibility of the security on the lot? What does your insurance agent say about this idea? Will it cost you more in premiums? How "good" is the neighborhood? Will you come to work one day and find an empty trailer or an empty spot? Will you have to put any fire protection system(s) out there? Lighting? How will you be sure each is DOT compliant, labeled with exactly what's in there, and what you gonna do if someone drops some drugs or HAZMAT stuff off, and now YOU'RE the one on the hook? Anything can happen, and usually does.
Do you have the tractor to shuffle these around should someone die on you, or you just end up with a trailer that's blocking the way and you can't get ahold of the owner? And it's blocking the access for you to get YOUR stuff in and out.
You know a good asphalt guy? A good tire guy? You'll need them?
Good luck. Now, go sit in the park for an hour and feed the pigeons and let your left brain come up with some ideas to make money with the same space that won't be another gross of Tylenol a week.
Steve
What you have is an unopened can, there, Ig. And it's filled with either tasty pork and beans, or snakes, or worms. Check very carefully before opening.
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In Las Vegas, out at the south end of Nellis, they were putting in Hwy 93. There was a car out there in the desert. It had no doors, motor, rear end, etc. Just a shell. As kids we went out there. As we got older, we got girls to go with us. You know the rest.
The car was a hulk. But, legally, they had to slap an orange sticker on it (it was upside down) for 90 days. Of course, no one claimed it, and it was towed off by a wrecker after 90 days. Ending up with a titleless chattel can be a real PITA to legally dispose of, conduct searches you might have to pay for, and heaven forbid traces of cocaine, blood, or heroin show up. And, as usual, it's the honest little guy who pays through the nose and has huge hoops to go through. As a renter, this may become a regular scenario for you which may be profitable or costly.
A guy I know in Redondo Beach rented his parking lot to those "roach coaches" guys. He got damn good rent because in addition to being roach coaches, they secretly doubled as unlicensed payday loan sources of cash, and that bumped the price up, and they ended up being a very quiet self-policing group, not wanting any reason for the cops to come over. They were licensed inspected vehicles paying for overnight parking, think he had to get a parking lot license. Not a lot of $$$.
Keep it simple, Simon.
Steve
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You've got some good points Steve, however smaller vehicles could be ok.
We've got a 40 seat bus we park in someone elses yard and pay a couple of hundred a month for a loose "road base" parking space.
There are a lot of buses, small trucks etc in our industrial areas that pay for a fenced parking lot. I dont know about the US but here in Oz the liabilities are small.
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OK, I will bite. What exactly you were going with girls in an upside down car?
I mean, I have two kids and I know what boys do with girls, but, I cannot imagine doing THAT in a car that is upside down.
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You must remember that nothing was ever proven in a court of law. And that my childhood/pubertyhood probably was a little different than yours. Las Vegas is like growing up on another planet. As for what we did, whatever was done was done with mutual consent.
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On Mon, 03 Oct 2011 13:03:20 -0500, Ignoramus19762

Why not? Girls say "Let's go some place secluded." Boys think "Any spot a girl gets on her back for (or on top of) me is fine with me." and says "I know just the spot." Girl thinks "This is unique and secluded and covered." and says "Let's do it."
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2011 13:03:20 -0500 typed in rec.crafts.metalworking the following:

    They were teaching astronomy. Sheens, desert nights, perfect for star gazing. "Now just lay back down here, and you can see...."

    In it, under it, on it. next to it ... boys will be boys, and girls will pick the wrong ones....
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I asked the village admin today, she said that she sees no problem, but she will double check.

I hope not.

This reminds me, I need to get some insurance. I bought the place for cash.

No idea, but good question.

It is not horrible, only about 30% more crime than my town, IIRC.
Plus, the location is such that the access and egress for the "bad guys" is very limited. Also, on one side, I have a huge railroad switching yard (policed somewhat), and on other side, I have a huge shpipping center of a big company (also policed and videotaped).

I will definitely get a lawyer (already wrote one), to get all of this straightened out. I figure, storage spaces deal with this all the time and they survive.

No tractor.

Hard to pass up so much potential income.
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It doesn't take much of a "tug tractor" to move even a fully-loaded 53' trailer. The big deal is tongue weight. Build yourself a 5th-wheel dolly to go under the front, good for a working load of at least 60Klb, and you could move them with block-n-tackle if necessary.
Just make sure nobody puts a kingpin lock on one without leaving you the key.
LLoyd
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On 2011-10-03, Lloyd E. Sponenburgh <lloydspinsidemindspring.com> wrote:

Lloyd, I think that this is the stuff that I can figure out. I mean, if someone leaves an unpaid-for parked semitrailer, I have plenty of time to deal with it.
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Yep, and with the right contract, you own the tractor and the load after x number of missed rent payments (just like storage places).
LLoyd
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On 2011-10-03, Lloyd E. Sponenburgh <lloydspinsidemindspring.com> wrote:

Exactly. And I can always say, no hazmat placarded vehicles.
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