Road use tax for electric cars & trucks

Anyone hear about how electricity will be taxed for use in electric cars? Seems only fair that they be taxed on and equivalent CO2 or
energy basis at the same rate as gasoline and Diesel. Plug in and the meter starts calculating your "auto only" rate based on your state, electric generation being used, ie % Coal,nuke, hydro, wind, solar + electrical system distribution losses....
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oldjag wrote:

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I keep hearing about GPS based systems to assess road taxes.
Wes
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On Wed, 2 Sep 2009 21:46:03 -0700 (PDT), oldjag

Road tax by the mile. A functioning odometer is required by law on all road vehicles. Mileage is reported at plate renewal. VERY simple to add road tax to the licence fee.
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On Thu, 03 Sep 2009 22:34:51 -0400, snipped-for-privacy@snyder.on.ca wrote:

Mile warranty - and he hit made sure to hit the 7 year point long before the odometer rolled over 100,000. Of course, the speedometer cable was disconnected for about a third of the time, and it wasn't all time it was on a tow-bar behind his motorhome...
Stick and a tachometer, and a simple EFI computer that doesn't freak when it doesn't see the speed sensor, and you don't need a speedo.
If you really want to cheat, you buy another idnetical instrument cluster at the junkyard and swap between the two. Suddenly you aren't racking up nearly as much mileage.
If they try anything like that, it will quickly be hacked.
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On Fri, 04 Sep 2009 00:23:04 -0700, Bruce L. Bergman

On most newer cars the odometer is just a display the mileage is recorded in the ECM. On an Auto trans car I doubt if you could even drive it with the sensor unplugged, the trans would never shift.
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Randy wrote:

The odomoter is in the engine computer, the instrument panel is just a computer display of sorts, these days.

Yes, certainly, but it may be getting harder to do that.
Jon
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Computer technology in the area of encryption could keep any funny business from happening. Encrypt the speed sensor data stream to the PCM using a symmetric key unique to the vehicle and your car is locked down. That would require the PCM to refuse to operate the vehicle if no velocity data is being transmitted. Might suck if your speed sender fails while you are driving mom to the emergency room but collecting taxes is the highest moral goal in society. Sorry about mom.
Wes
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On Fri, 04 Sep 2009 00:23:04 -0700, Bruce L. Bergman

Can't do that with the new stuff. No speedo cable, and the computer keeps track of the mileage internally even if the ODO is disconnected. Car won't go with no VSS. If it will, it reports the VSS as dead.
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On Sep 3, 10:34pm, snipped-for-privacy@snyder.on.ca wrote:

Yes that is more of true road useage tax; but then it's not a direct function of energy use, (ie tax per gallon), or of CO2 production which is what the government may be seeking to "control".
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On Fri, 4 Sep 2009 17:54:12 -0700 (PDT), oldjag

All the government is seeking to "control" is revenue.
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