Thanks guidance mechanical etc. - preoccupied lime mortar'ing

Aug 23, 2026 Last reply: 5 hours ago 2 Replies

Thanks everyone for entertaining my posts about welding, generators and offgrid electric power, etc., etc.



I have come in and looked at replies.



Silence has been I have been lime-mortar'ing, and using lime in another niche application I came across - "mud" mortar - subsoil-mortar - used in local natural stone construction here in Cornwall (and around Britain historically, it seems).



Lime-mortar you can buy as a premix in sacks. Apparently the lime component is already slaked through to CaOH - which is dried so is a powder - but which otherwise holds all the right characteristics. Giving you an easy-to-use much less hazardous material to work with. Took me ages coming from nothing to having some idea what to use. Then at a basic level the meaning of the terminologies.



The "subsoil-mortar" had me doing "hot-mix lime". Lime component goes in as the quicklime, CaO, as it comes out of a lime-kiln. Its heat of hydration is notorious - leading to name "hot-mix". Seeing is understanding...



I at least somewhat see now how in Roman "hydraulic mortars" - mortars which have a self-setting reaction "within themselves" after hydration, not solely relying on drying and/or reaction with carbon-dioxide in the atmosphere (as lime tries to revert to limestone) - are "clever". Roman mortar on quays / harbours in seawater have lasted 2 millennia and remain sound. It was thought unreacted quicklime was "careless" hot-mixing. I can now at least kind-of see what has recently been realised - that feature is deliberate. It gives a self-healing mechanism, by having a reservoir of quicklime to chemically react and self-heal if there is structural settlement etc.



So have been preoccupied. While being grateful for help & guidance which came-in on topics I have asked about.


I at least somewhat see now how in Roman "hydraulic mortars" - mortars which have a self-setting reaction "within themselves" after hydration, not solely relying on drying and/or reaction with carbon-dioxide in the atmosphere (as lime tries to revert to limestone) - are "clever". Roman mortar on quays / harbours in seawater have lasted 2 millennia and remain sound. It was thought unreacted quicklime was "careless" hot-mixing. I can now at least kind-of see what has recently been realised - that feature is deliberate. It gives a self-healing mechanism, by having a reservoir of quicklime to chemically react and self-heal if there is structural settlement etc.

----------------------------------- The Romans were fortunate to have this volcanic ash nearby:

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My understanding is that the unreacted quicklime dissolves in water leaking through cracks and deposits like cave stalactites when the water evaporates at the exposed end.

In Germany I saw concrete from the rushed construction of the 1930's and

40's that was already crumbling, plus ancient work that wasn't.

So the answer to the long lasting Roman concrete is its self healing?

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